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Old 10-04-2008, 12:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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AQF 111 trade train ?

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i,m looking for a bit of advice/ information.....
does anyone know about a company trade train ? we were just looking into the AQF 111 for chefs and apparently you would only require 4 not 5 years exp to make yourself eligible for the tra assessment, many thanks in advance if you could shed any light on costs and how it all works
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Old 10-04-2008, 01:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Karen

Trade Train seems to be the trading name of a company called Australian Construction Training Services to judge from their website, which is here:

ACTS Australia | Welcome to Trade Train

I suspect, therefore, that they are unlikely to be offering to assess the skills of anyone who is not involved in contruction work.

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Old 10-04-2008, 10:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Karen

Trade Train seems to be the trading name of a company called Australian Construction Training Services to judge from their website, which is here:

ACTS Australia | Welcome to Trade Train

I suspect, therefore, that they are unlikely to be offering to assess the skills of anyone who is not involved in contruction work.

Best wishes

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hi gill,
yes i realise they are constrution based but they do apparently other courses also, thats about all i know though, i have emailed a query form to them but i,m still waiting for them to get back to me, thanks anyway
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Old 10-04-2008, 05:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi.
I have been talking quite a lot to the people at trade train. My hubby is a dryliner (construction) and they can help to assess and provide him with an AQF3 within 6 weeks, by means of an interview, references, photos of his work, accounts, etc. Expensive at £3750 but I personally think they sound interesting!

Try emailing chris.galway@tradetrain.com.au.

I can't see how, if he gets the certificate, that TRA can turn us down. Or have I completely got the wrong end of the stick?

Anyway, hope this helps.
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Old 10-04-2008, 05:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
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hi thatnks for that, we have had an email back and yes they do assessments for chefs also, we had not got as far as how expensive, is it the same price for all trades do you know, and yes this is my understanding of how it works also
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That's good news for you. I have no idea about the cost, but I would be inclined to say that the cost will be the same for any trade. The application fee is £750, then there are 2 installments of £1500, the last one at the hand over of the certificate. I think they do actually provide other things for that price, such as helping with licensing requirements when you're actually in Oz too.

They've been really helpful actually. Good luck. Let me know the name of your restaurant when you are all set up and I'll bring the family for a meal!
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Hi Karen

I have been looking at your earlier thread on this subject.

I gather that your chef query is on behalf of your son, who is a chef but who may not yet have enough work experience to go with it? Or the other way around?

The reason i am asking is this:

Is there any reason why he shouldn't go to Oz on a WHMV in the first instance?

Sure, to get 2 years on a WHMV he would have to spend 3 months doing something like farming according to the DIAC website, but please read the relevant to you parts of my reply to Scotty yesterday:

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/news-g...sa-please.html

It does not seem to be as narrow as farming and there seems to be a plan to add construction to the list though it seems not to have been added as yet.

However, apart from that 3-4 months, he could continue to work as a chef. He could get himself assessed for AQFIII at a local TAFE, and make sure he gets the necessary 900 hours of work experience so that he can pass the TRA under Pathway E as far as I can work out.

Please see the following links:

Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - News

Please click on the link to the UAC at the bottom of that article and study the UAC.

Go Matilda - Your Gateway to Australia - News

If your son is already in Oz on a WHMV, then getting an AQFIII etc from a TAFE - which could be arranged direct with the TAFE I would imagine - would seem to be cheaper?

I've also heard (but I am not sure and you would need to check it out) that 6 months work exp in Oz is worth 12 months outside of Oz. I'm NOT sure, though.

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hi, thanks for the reply gill
do you know how we can find out if this is do-able ? would they be able to help if i rang australia house,
sorry for being a bit thick but can i just check i,m getting you right, so he could leave on a working holiday visa then once he arrived in oz he could apply to TAFE to be assessed for an AQF 11, this would mean he wouldn,t have to get anymore experience then, as if we leave when we hope to in oct, he will have 4 years and 2 months experience and for an AQF he only requires 4 years ? this would make him eligible for applying to the TRA, ?
there is no reason for him to not go on a WHV other than we want to help him feel as settled as possible which he wouldn,t do on a WHV without knowing where this would lead,
he has such a large cicle of freinds that he has been with since beginning high school, so i think things will be a bit hard for him at first as it is, if your solution as i,ve interpreted it is a very good solution,
many thanks again gill
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Hi there , so once you get the AQF111 from trade train wud this pass TRA? I have been a slater in scotland for 18 years but no qualifications and i was quoted £700 for the same tpye of assessment and would of been awarded a SVQ 2 in roof slating and tiling and this would of taken 6 weeks or so to do but this would no longer pass . So now your saying that if an assesser from oz came over to watch me do my job he can award me an AQF111 and he probably hasnt seen or held a slate in his hand in his life.
Sorry folks but im sceptical
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[quote=stevie ellis;220538]Hi there , so once you get the AQF111 from trade train wud this pass TRA? I have been a slater in scotland for 18 years but no qualifications and i was quoted £700 for the same tpye of assessment and would of been awarded a SVQ 2 in roof slating and tiling and this would of taken 6 weeks or so to do but this would no longer pass . So now your saying that if an assesser from oz came over to watch me do my job he can award me an AQF111 and he probably hasnt seen or held a slate in his hand in his life.
Sorry folks but im sceptical
Thanks stevie[/qu



i honestly dont know,

we only discovered it yesterday so we,re still finding out how it all works, i,ve had a few reply,s on other sites and they sound very positive and a few have gone on to gian a succesful tra assessment,
i gather trade train expect you to have the relevant work experience and skills that they then assess to the australian standard required for a AFQ qualification, and if certain elements were missing, train you in these area,s. this is my very limited understanding, feel free to correct me if this is wrong anyone ?


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