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Originally Posted by missymon
Hi evry1,
On checking the queue calculator yesterday how come there are only 70 applications in front of our CPV 173 visa application when up to now there has been 320 before us? Does it mean they are processing quickly now and we maybe need to get excited? Or is it a mistake do you think?
Monica
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Hi Again, Monica
Please have a look at this recent document which I've just found on the DIAC website:
Australian Immigration Fact Sheet 39. Family Stream Migration - Contributory parent category visas
It appears to be saying that the Queue Date, Queue Calculator etc won't be used for CPVs unless they run out of visas for CPVs and CAPVs during the current 2008/9 Program Year.
Taking the CP 173 visa and a notional "queue date" of 15th March 2008, the figure produced is 70. I think what it means is that there may well have been 320 people in that Queue on 15th March 2008. However all but 70 of the people who were Queued on or before 15th March 2008 have now received their visas (ie 250 Grants of CPV 173s since 1st July 2008.)
June Coates will be one of the remainder of 70 people because she is waiting for a CPV 173, she sailed through her meds & pccs in January, so she should have been in the Queue by 15th March.
However June's case is an anomaly in a way because her Co has been ready to grant June's CPV 173 for some time, but June herself has chosen to delay the grant slightly so as to make her visit to Bali in September or October 2008 rather than dropping everything and rushing to Bali as soon as the CO gave the green light. If you like, June's Grant has been delayed but June herself controls the delay.
It could easily be that there are another 69 cases like June's. June's tourist visa permits her to stay in Oz until sometime in December 2008 anyway, so June might as well pick & choose about when would be a convenient date for her trip to Bali.
The Calculator seems to have been updated until and including 31st July 2008. It says that as at 31st July 2008 there were some 150 Queued CPV173 people. That would make sense. 70 left over since March or earlier and another 80 added to the Queue between 16 March and 31st July tallies with the figures in the Capping statement made in April 2008:
Media Release: Capping of Contributory Parent category visas
In order to work out where you might stand in the total pecking order, however, you need to do as follows:
1. Find out whether you have been added to the Queue yet, and if so when, which depends on whether they are still going to insist on meds & pccs for CPs before adding any of you to the Queue:
Agents Gateway - Health and Character requirements for parent visa applicants outside Australia
It is not clear whether the new arrangements are confined to non-contributory Parent visa applicants or whether it includes CPV and CAPV applicants as well.
2. If you have not yet been Queued but your application joins the Queue on 31st August, you need to bear in mind that by 31/07/2008 there were already a total of 930 CP143 and CP173 applicants ahead of you in the Queue. Additionally there are bound to be some CAPV 864 and 884 applicants as well but so far the Calculator is giving nil returns for both CAPV groups. I suspect that the relevant files are still on their way to the POPC from the various Departmental offices around Oz and that the CAPV figures have not yet been collated and added to the information on the Calculator.
I think that if you make a rough estimate that 1,200 CPV and CAPV applicants have already been Queued ahead of you for visa grants during the 2008/9 Program Year, and that they were either already in the Queue by 1st July 2008 or were added to it between 1st & 31st July 2008, you probably won't go too far wrong.
However, the majority of these parents submitted applications on or before 31st July 2007. Therefore it could easily be March or April 2009 before the POPC get around to adding yu and OH to the Queue anyway, and we will just need to watch the Queue and see how it develops during the next few months.
I
think this is how the thing is supposed to work. (But I am open to alternative suggestions about how it works because I am really not sure.) Even if CPV and CAPV applicants are included in the new arrangements of adding people to the Queue without waiting for meds and pccs for them first, I shouldn't think anyone is being added to the Queue until a CO has at least scrutinised the file closely and I don't think that happens until many months after the application has been delivered to the POPC.
This is a complete guess, but based on DIAC's various and garbled descriptions about what is supposed to be happening, I suspect that the drill will become as follows:
File reaches the POPC and about 6 weeks later a junior member of staff checks to see that the documents in the file comply with Schedule 1, making it a valid application. If it gets through that hurdle, the AO (Admin Officer) sends the acknowledgement letter and confirms the date of lodgement.
If the AO spots that the application does not comply with Schedule 1 (eg somebody forgot to include payment of the 1st VAC) the AO rejects the application on the ground that it is not a valid application and returns the whole file to the soon-to-be-dejected applicant.
Recent acknowledgement letters have given recent (1st July 2008 onwards) applicants to understand that they probably won't hear anything more from the POPC for another year.
So sometime in July 2009, these people can expect to hear from a CO. I suspect that the first contact from the CO will say, "I have added you to the Queue on dd/mm/yyyy and I now need you to get your meds and pccs done, please" or it will say, "I note that you have done your meds and pccs and you have been added to the Queue on dd/mm/yyyy. Please now await further instructions from me."
Purely a guess, but that is how I would tackle the business, I think.
Best wishes
Gill
