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Old 06-02-2008, 07:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Locksmith - Help with visa pls!

Hi PIO,
Really need advice. My husband is a Locksmith and has been for 10 years, owning his own locksmith company for the last 6. We are trying to emigrate to perth, but for a skilled visa you need qualifications. Unfortunately there are no qualifications or exams for locksmiths. Tried contacting migrant agents, but even they are not sure what we can do. Any advice would be brilliant.

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Old 06-02-2008, 08:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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my hubby is a plasterer with no qualifications so do not worry as he passed the tra easily its expierence that counts give as much detail as possible from the day he started training what he did what tools he uses who taught him etc it seems so daunting but dont worry emma steve x x
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you emmasteve, did you do the TRA yourself or go through an agent? I have spoken to two agents now, both highly recommended on this site, and they are at a loss as to what we should do. Can't see away around this at the moment.
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi, i'm also a locksmith waiting for TRA to get their act together. I'm in exactly the same situation as you're hubby, i'm afraid its just a case of hurry up and wait!
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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my hubby is a plasterer with no qualifications so do not worry as he passed the tra easily its expierence that counts give as much detail as possible from the day he started training what he did what tools he uses who taught him etc it seems so daunting but dont worry emma steve x x
Hi Emma & Steve

The problem for locksmiths is that in October 2007, teh TRA sudenly closed Pathway D to new applicants. If Steve weer trying to apply for a skills assessment today, he would be stuck because of the Pathway D closure. The TRA said they were going to announce an alternative scheme "in January." They did ot say which year.....

In a way it is worse for locksmiths because there are no relevant qualifications that they could do. Also, wheras a time-served plastereer or brickie might be able to get sponsorship from a contractor (doing away with the need for formal qualifications) locksmiths do seem to work on their own from what I have seen.

It is strange. With all the building going on in places like Perth, the need for locksmiths must be greater than ever. Who is going to cut spare keys for doors? Who is going to solve the problem is someone gets locked out of their new house?I'm sure that teh original door-fitters can put the locks on the doors to begin with, but the modern world cannot manage without locksmiths!

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Old 07-02-2008, 01:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Louse and Andy

This is becoming exasperating.

A guy called Glenn Newton used to be the boss of the TRA. He is now a Registered Migration Agent and can be contacted via this link:

Glenn Newton

It says that he left the TRA in 1999, but I'll bet he knows the current crop of TRA bosses.

I would suggest that both of you contact Mr Newton because if anybody can sort this out and at least get an exemption from this nonsense for locksmiths - precisely because qualifications are not possible in the UK (I don't know about elsewhere) - my guess would be that Glenn Newton is likely to be the guy who can sort it out.

In the meantime.... May I pick your brains, please?

I have a Chinese chest. It has a Chinese lock on it - a traditional brass thing. Pease imagine a padlock. Instead of a curved bar at the top, it is a straight bar - like a piece of welding rod. The lock part is shaped like a Toblerone and is about 2" long.

To lock it, you put the folding flap down from the lid to the front of the chest, slide the bar through two lugs and push the lock shut, wherupon the key can be removed.

To unlock it, wherein lies the rub, you need The Key. My elderly mother has lost the key!

The key looks like a miniature RSJ. Imagine the shape of an "H", only 2" long and the upright sections are short. You push it in to one end of the Toblerone and it is about the same length. It obviously releases something and the lock then comes apart in two halves. One end of the Toblerone comes off, with the "padlock bar" attached to it, and the other half is the main body of the lock part, with the key in it.

I need to open the chest and I don't want anybody breaking this beautiful, antique Chinese lock in order to do it. All my degree certs, exam certs and everything are in the chest and I need to get them out. The Average Bloke would probably vandalise it with a hacksaw or something, I fear, so I'm keeping quiet about it whenever any men are about!

I have 2 questions, please:

1. If I summon the local locksmith in the village, would he be able to pick the lock without damaging it, please?

2. By examining the lock (though I don't know that it is posible to get into its innards) would he be able to produce a drawing showing what the key ought to look like? The local compass adjuster can make things out of brass - plaques for offices and suchlike. If I can produce accurate dimensions and an accurate drawing, I reckon that Ron Robinson (the compass adjuster) might be able to make a new key. Alternatively, would a locksmith be able to make a key that will work, even if it isn't Finest Brass?

Many thanks for any advice you can give me about this.

Cheers

Gill

PS - Sorry about my agricultural descrption of the lock but I don't know any of the technical terms relating to locks.

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Old 07-02-2008, 09:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Gill

Im Dan, louise's oh. I would reccomend using a MLA ( master locksmith association ) approved company, you can use the MLA website to find your nearest one. When someone comes out make sure they understand that you dont want them to damage the lock. If you cant find someone down that way then let me know, I am in kent and if you twist my arm i will come and open it for you.

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Old 07-02-2008, 11:20 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Dan be warned Gill is known for getting men round to her house under false pretences and locking them under the stairs ! never to be seen again!!!lol

only joking ,i hope you get it sorted Gill,it would be lovely for a poms member to help you out after all the advice you provide on this site,good luck,and if all else fails find a good car thief and a coat hanger!!!
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Locksmith - Pathway D

I contacted Glenn Newton after reading the posts above and he was straight back to me. Some very good advice from him too.
At the end of the day, we just have to sit tight and see what the New Look Pathway D comes out like....
Here's hoping......
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Hi Stewlanz,

Do you have any idea when the pathway D will be sorted? I heard it could be July now, whereas before they were discussing an interim measure at the end of March.


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