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Old 14-01-2008, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pathway D

It seems to be all we harp on about these days..................but basically if this is not reintroduced we are stuffed. Not much chance of getting in any other way really.........OH a carpet/laminate floor fitter and we are going through an aoption as we foster two kidz we want to take along ............................so if we cant get in then we have put lots of people through lots of stress and its looking like all for nothing.

Feeling a bit disheartened really. We are aware that things are strict and feel that a good thing as Aus has better regs than the UK who let almost anyone in but we are genuine workers who want a better life for our kidz......................................


Got a meeting with our agency we applied through in Feb but if pathway D doesnt come back we are looking at rainy dayz in the UK.....................................

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Old 14-01-2008, 11:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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your certainly not on your own, we can't see another way unless this reopens, o/h even made a trip over to oz in nov to try and secure a sponsor but they arn't as keen as we think they are to have us over ther it's alot of paperwork and money for them to do.
we are waiting nervously for any news, wish you all the best.
perhaps we should organise a huge party/get together for all us when we finally get some good news.
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Old 14-01-2008, 12:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well that answers another idea for me and saves us the money and hassle as we were just discussing going over and seeing if we could secure a sponsor - thinking to do it face to face rather than over the phone of through the net would help......................................will take your advice and not bother. Not giving up hope though but its getting tougher to think positive. A real test of character.....
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Old 14-01-2008, 12:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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hi, it may be worth a try , my o/h os a locksmith and he visited as man as he could find and they are needed over there and some agreed to have a look a paperwork etc, we offered to pay any fees, and got our agent to conatct them but it seems as soon as you return back here they just not as interested.
to be honest because we also know where we want to go, so we are a bit fussy. he has been offered work in other parts of oz.
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Old 14-01-2008, 12:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi there

I am no expert on skilled migration - far from it. However, in my observation plenty of people are getting out to Oz on 457 visas despite not having any sort of skills assessment and their skills may not necessarily even be in major demand.

At the moment, I suspect that both of you are considering skilled independent migration only? Agents seem to be saying that employer sponsorship is the route to take whilst we wait for the Pathway D thing to sort itself out.

I think that trying to approach a possible employer direct when he knows nothing about employer nominated visas and one knows little or nothing about them oneself is what makes potential employers in Oz so reluctant to consider the idea.

However, if the possible employer needs skilled help and he is approached by an Agent with loads of experience of employer nominated visas, it is easier to convince him that it need not be the minefield that he imagines and if the prospective migrant is willing to pay all the costs of the Agent and the application, the potential employer can lose nothing by taking a closer look and maybe getting involved.

The shakeup with the 47 visa last year (apparently recruitment agencies can no longer sponsor the applicant themselves and them sub him out to an employer) has made Registered Migration Agents look at other ways of helping to solve the problem - viz by finding the end-employers themselves and matching the applicants to them.

I have been told about this company in Perth:

Complete Migration Solutions

Roantree, if they need brickies then sooner or later the building sites will also need sparkies, plumbers, flooring people and so on. CMS may not have direct contacts in those fields themselves (though you may as well ask, I suggest) but as I understand this, billy braveheart found his employer and thereby his visa via CMS. Billy is a brickie in Perth and he has made a shining success of the sponsored route.

Whilst CMS themselves may not know how to put you in touch with the contractor who would lay the floors, billy might be able to get you some names and contact details and if so, CMS would probably be willing to try to facilitate things between you and a possible employer.

Go Matilda have also started a sister company devoted to helping people to get jobs in Oz. Please see here:

Find a Job in Oz

As I understand it, one can be sponsored for a 457 visa without a skills assessment. The drawback seems to be that one has to stay on the 457 visa for 2 years but after that it can be exchanged for a PR visa - either ENS or RSMS, I think. During that 2 years they may come up with a new version of Pathway D, so if you ahve all your paperwork ready before you leave the UK, there would be nothing to stop you from doing the new version of the skills assessment once it comes in. That in turn might well speed the route to PR.

NSW is not the best place to look if one is going to be on a 457 visa because NSW will not fund school fees for the children of temporary residents. However I am told that all other States treat the children of Temp residents in the same way as all other children.

I think that with employer sponsored visas, one just has to be willing to go to wherever the job is for a couple of years, even if that is not the first choice of location in Oz. One can always move later on, once PR is secured.

Billy does have a TRA assessment so he has been able to start his application for an employer nominated PR visa even though he has only been in Oz for 4 or 5 months. They should have PR by July 2008 if not sooner, I would imagine.

My own sister got PR in Oz via a Working Holiday Maker visa, followed by a 457 or its predecessor (she did it 25 years ago) followed by Employer Nomination for PR. Subsequently she married an Australian Citizen but she had PR in her own right for some time before they were married.

I think that if people can just get that first - crucial - break, as happened for my sister and for billy, then the rest is do-able.

Despairing definitely WON'T secure a visa, my friends......

Good luck

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Old 14-01-2008, 01:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Your advice much appreciated. Thanks a million. We have a meeting set up with our agent and alongside our own stuff your info will come in very handy.
Like you say we wont get their if we just sit about whinging.

A wake up call I think they call it..................and very much appreciated.
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Thanks Gill.
it has also made me consider getting on the back of our agent, rather than sitting here waiting for something that may never happen, getting onto it right away.
we have since dicussed that going anywhere in oz at first is better than not being there at all, so we would consider jobs in other places now.
thank you ,it was just the talking to i needed,
best wishes Sam.:)
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Hi,
my husband and I missed out on pathway D, so we decied to go on a 457. we did not use an agents as we felt is was a waste of money. I literally rung a bunch of companies looking for panel beaters until I found one that would sponsor us. The whole process took about 12 months, but it can be done. We live in NSW, and its nonsense about the school fees. We chose to send our son to a private school, but we could have easily put him in a public school and it would have been free. You cant give up hope, there are plenty of good sponsors, you just have to ring and ring until you find one. I hope this helps.

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