PomCop Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Hi all I wanted to put together a thread that outlines the occupations TRA skill assess and what the requirements are. I will also be at hand to answer any questions or queries you may have. Please note I am not a migration agent, just doing this to help others out who are lost at the beginning of their application, just like I was! Step 1 - Finding your occupation Trades Recognition Australia (TRA) carry out the Skills Assessment for the following Occupations as of Friday 17th July 2015: [TABLE=width: 496] [TR] [TD]Automotive Electrician[/TD] [TD]321111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Motor Mechanic (General)[/TD] [TD]321211[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Diesel Motor Mechanic[/TD] [TD]321212[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Motorcycle Mechanic[/TD] [TD]321213[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Small Engine Mechanic[/TD] [TD]321214[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Sheetmetal Trades Worker[/TD] [TD]322211[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Metal Fabricator[/TD] [TD]322311[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Pressure Welder[/TD] [TD]322312[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Welder (First Class)[/TD] [TD]322313[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fitter (General)[/TD] [TD]323211[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fitter and Turner[/TD] [TD]323212[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fitter-Welder[/TD] [TD]323213[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Metal Machinist (First Class)[/TD] [TD]323214[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Locksmith[/TD] [TD]323313[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Panelbeater[/TD] [TD]324111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Bricklayer[/TD] [TD]331111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Stonemason[/TD] [TD]331112[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Carpenter and Joiner[/TD] [TD]331211[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Carpenter[/TD] [TD]331212[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Joiner[/TD] [TD]331213[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Painting trades workers[/TD] [TD]332211[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Glazier[/TD] [TD]333111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Fibrous Plasterer[/TD] [TD]333211[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Solid Plasterer[/TD] [TD]333212[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Wall and Floor Tiler[/TD] [TD]333411[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Plumber (General)[/TD] [TD]334111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Airconditioning and Mechanical Services Plumber[/TD] [TD]334112[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Drainer[/TD] [TD]334113[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gasfitter[/TD] [TD]334114[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Roof plumber[/TD] [TD]334115[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electrician (General)[/TD] [TD]341111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electrician (Special Class)[/TD] [TD]341112[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Lift Mechanic[/TD] [TD]341113[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Airconditioning and Refrigeration Mechanic[/TD] [TD]342111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electrical Linesworker[/TD] [TD]342211[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Technical Cable Jointer[/TD] [TD]342212[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electronic Equipment Trades Worker[/TD] [TD]342313[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electronic Instrument Trades Worker (General)[/TD] [TD]342314[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Electronic Instrument Trades Worker (Special Class)[/TD] [TD]342315[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Chef***[/TD] [TD]351311[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Cabinetmaker[/TD] [TD]394111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Boat Builder and Repairer[/TD] [TD]399111[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Shipwright[/TD] [TD]399112[/TD] [TD]TRA[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] *** indicates that the occupation excludes positions in fast food or takeaway food service. Step 2 - Eligibility for the Skills Assessment According to the TRA Guidance Notes Section 2.4, which can be found on their website under 'key documents' you need to have the following: To receive a positive TRA Migration Skills Assessment outcome you must provide documents to show that you: x are from a country and in an occupation covered by the TRA Migration Skills Assessment program (that is, you are not from a nominated country and nominated occupation under the Offshore Skills Assessment Program), and x have a qualification comparable to the Australian qualification for your nominated occupation or have completed an apprenticeship comparable to the Australian apprenticeship for your nominated occupation, and x have completed three years of full-time (or equivalent part-time) paid employment in your nominated occupation at the required skill level, and x have completed at least 12 months of full-time (or equivalent part-time) paid employment in your nominated occupation, or in a closely related occupation where you are required to maintain your skill level for the nominated occupation, in the three years immediately before applying, and x have paid the $1,000 TRA Migration Skills Assessment fee. Step 3 - Evidence gathering This is probably the most daunting area of the skills assessment. It is time consuming and you will, at times, feel like giving up. Well don't. It will be worth it in the long run - trust me! In line with the TRA Guidance Notes, Section 2.8.1 to 2.8.2, you need to supply the following supporting documents/evidence. This depends on whether you are an employee or self-employed (self-employed generally means you are the owner of the company that carries out pricing for work, ordering of materials and deal directly with clients, whereas employee covers sub-contractors too). 2.8.2 Full-time (or equivalent) paid employment A Full-time (or Equivalent part-time) Employment TRA considers full-time employment as ongoing employment working the required number of hours considered full-time in the country where the employment was undertaken. Fair Work Australia considers full-time employment in Australia as 38 hours per week, unless a particular industrial award specifies otherwise. If your country of employment operates under different arrangements for full-time work from that required in Australia, you must provide evidence to TRA with your application that can be independently validated. Acceptable evidence may include a statutory declaration from your employer or an extract from an official government website or document. Note: Evidence of employment undertaken on a part-time basis will be considered and counted toward employment requirement on a pro-rata basis. B Paid Employment Employment is considered to be paid when an employer pays you wages commensurate with the skill level required for the employment undertaken. If you are self-employed, employment is considered paid if you charge fees commensurate with the skill level required for the services you provide. TRA requires sufficient evidence of paid employment to verify that your employment was full-time (or equivalent part-time) and at the required skill level for your occupation in Australia. TRA will require at least one primary source of evidence or a minimum of two secondary sources of evidence for each year and each period of employment being claimed. Additional evidence may also be requested. Primary sources of evidence may include: x Tax records that cite the name of the applicant and the employer x Annual payment summaries/Group certificates that cite the name of the applicant and the employer x Pay slips that include the name of the employer, commencement date of the employment and year to date income information x Superannuation documents that cite the name of the applicant and the name of the employer x Annual/company returns (for self-employed applicants) with an accompanying accountant statement Secondary sources of evidence may include: x Pay slips (without details of commencement date or year to date income information) x Advice regarding wages paid in an employer statement (in accordance with Section 2.8.6) x A certified statement from your registered/certified accountant. x Letters from taxation offices that do not contain the name of the employer\ x Bank statements showing income deposited from employment. You may wish to provide other evidence to substantiate your claims of paid employment. If you are claiming Australian employment, you must include the PAYG Payment Summary for every year of Australian employment you wish to claim (excluding the current financial year for which you are yet to receive a PAYG Payment Summary). Step 3 - Getting your documents certified TRA requires that you have certified copies of original documents. If you live in the UK, take it to a solicitor or to your local magistrates court. You must have in possession the original document that they are certifying. Section 1.14.1 outlines the requirements: 1.14.1 Certified documents Original documents must not be sent to TRA. All documents in support of your application must be certified copies of original documents. A certified copy is a true copy of an original document that has been seen and certified by a person listed on the Australian Attorney-General’s website or a registered migration agent and annotated as follows: ‘I certify that I have sighted the original document and this is a true copy of it.’ This certification must be made on a copy of the original documentation and include the certifier’s name, title and registration number (where applicable), their original signature and the date. Copies of signatures will not be acceptable. If a document has multiple pages, the first page must include the signature and date of the certifier, as well as the total number of pages of the document. Every page in the document must have the original initial of the certifier and the date. Part 6 - Completing the application form The application form is very, very basic. It is straight forward and aimed at all of the above occupations found in the Skilled Occupations List above. Name, date of birth, contact numbers, email address, what occupation you want assessing, your qualifications etc etc. It is really straight forward and takes literally 10 minutes to complete. Now, on the front of the application form it does state that this form cannot be completed electronically. I emailed TRA about this and I have been informed that you CAN complete it electronically, as long as the declaration page has your original signature made with ink. The email is below: Dear XXXX XXXXXXX, Thank you for your email to Trades Recognition Australia (TRA). You may complete Part 8 of the TRA Migration Skills Assessment (MSA) application form on separate pages and attach to the application form. In fact, you may complete the rest of the application form on your computer and print it off, but you must place an original signature on the application form before submitting it to us. We trust that this information is of assistance. YL2500 Trades Recognition Australia Department of Education and Training Phone 1300 360 992 | Fax 61 2 6123 7883 http://tradesrecognitionaustralia.gov.au Part 5 - Paying the TRA fee To pay for you application, A$1000 (roughly £450GBP), you need to create an account on the Trades Recognition online portal. It's fairly simple to create an account, so I won't add instructions for that, but for the 189 - Skilled Independent Visa, you need to select 'Migration Skills Assessment Payment Portal'. Once the A$1000 has been paid, it will print out a receipt with your TRA Reference number and showing that you have paid your fee. THIS GOES ON THE FRONT OF YOUR APPLICATION. TRA will get a little huffy and puffy if they are rummaging around trying to find out whether you've paid or not - make sure it's on the front of everything so it's there as soon as they open up the box. Part 6 - Sending it to TRA If your parcel weighs under 2kg, you are looking at £25 through Royal Mail for Tracked & Signed For delivery to TRA. It needs to be sent to: Trades Recognition Australia Department of Industry Via Loading Dock Industry House 10 Binara Street Canberra ACT 2600 Australia Make sure the address is clear and waterproofed (cover with transparent cellotape or film) - you don't want all of your documents going walkabouts! Section 5 - The wait All you can do now is sit back and wait. TRA generally take 3 to 4 months to get a positive or negative skills assessment, but this timeframe starts when you receive your 'acknowledgement letter' via post or email (whichever you stated in your application). Once you have received your Positive Skills Assessment, you can then start looking forward to your Expression of Interest (EOI)! If you didn’t get the result you had hoped for, you can submit a review of your application, which costs a further A$900. Again, this is another 3 month wait. Best of luck! Feel free to ask any questions and I will help as much as I can. If you have any experiences with TRA, please share them! :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Have you picked up the fact that for those in the UK certain of these occupations are to be assessed by RTOs (eg VETASSESS, Australian Construction Training Services, VicUni, Future Skills International)? See info here: http://www.tradesrecognitionaustralia.gov.au/Programs/Pages/RTO-Finder.aspx Best regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooba Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Trades Recognition Australia Department of Industry Via Loading Dock Industry House 10 Binara Street Canberra ACT 2600 Where did you get this address? It's not what's in the guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven106 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Also may i ask if you dont get a positive out-come do TRA tell you what is required to gain the certificate? do they help you out or just say no..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomCop Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Also may i ask if you dont get a positive out-come do TRA tell you what is required to gain the certificate? do they help you out or just say no..? It's either a negative or positive. You can submit a review of your application it it fails, which is a further $900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomCop Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 Where did you get this address? It's not what's in the guide. That's the address if you're sending your TRA application by courier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wooba Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 That's the address if you're sending your TRA application by courier. Not anymore. Based on a Google search, that was only until last December. The government department that handles TRA changed then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njchamp Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hi , so basically if you have no qualifications on paper you're stuffed ? My husband has done carpentry for over 10 years but was taught by another carpenter within a firm so therefore has no actual qualifications. Some people have advised me to get a migration agent as this doesn't necessarily mean the end but I can't see a way around it as the TRA still ask for proof of qualifications . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) http://www.downundercentre.com/australian-skill-assessments Speak to Wes Zandt at the Down Under Centre. The DUC is the location in the UK which can assess your competencies as a carpenter with a view to issuing an AQF Certificate III, through the delegated body called the ACTS. Best regards. Edited August 24, 2015 by Alan Collett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njchamp Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Ok thank you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Brilliant post thanks for confirming, I just have a question. I am in the process of getting my qualification assessed my current visa expires in three weeks, I am unable to complete my EOI due to my qualification nit being assessed. Are you aware of any visa that I may be able to go on in the mean time whilst I am waiting for the result? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomCop Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Brilliant post thanks for confirming, I just have a question. I am in the process of getting my qualification assessed my current visa expires in three weeks, I am unable to complete my EOI due to my qualification nit being assessed. Are you aware of any visa that I may be able to go on in the mean time whilst I am waiting for the result? Thanks It all depends on the visa you are on now and the visa options available to you. You wouldn't be granted a bridging visa as you don't even has a positive skills assessment yet and you need that to submit the EOI which would give you the bridging visa. I'm not an agent so you are perhaps waiting for a more detailed response from a registered agent. However, in the meantime, you should post the details of your current visa so if anyone knows, they can help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 You wouldn't be granted a bridging visa as you don't even has a positive skills assessment yet and you need that to submit the EOI which would give you the bridging visa. An EOI does not result in a bridging visa being issued, only a visa application does. OP - from what you've posted elsewhere, you'll likely need to complete this application process from outside Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binaj Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Hi, I'm in the process of applying for TRA assessment under the ANZSCO title Electronic Equipment Trade Worker. I do have 10 years of experience + diploma in electronic engineering. My electronics experience is in the medical equipments, is it OK to proceed with the same ANZSCO since my experience is not in the specialisation as mentioned below, Please reply. 342313 ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT TRADES WORKER: Installs, maintains and repairs electronic equipment and systems such as audio and visual reproduction equipment, home entertainment system, computers and electronic security systems. Skill Level: 3 Specializations: Audiovisual Technician Fire Alarm Technician Home Theatre Technician Security Technician Video Technician Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renebo Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Hi there, would you perhaps know what type of questions are asked during the technical interview for a chef? Hope to hear from you...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Weedon Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hi, I'm in the process of applying for TRA assessment under the ANZSCO title Electronic Equipment Trade Worker. I do have 10 years of experience + diploma in electronic engineering. My electronics experience is in the medical equipments, is it OK to proceed with the same ANZSCO since my experience is not in the specialisation as mentioned below, Please reply. 342313 ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT TRADES WORKER: Installs, maintains and repairs electronic equipment and systems such as audio and visual reproduction equipment, home entertainment system, computers and electronic security systems. Skill Level: 3 Specializations: Audiovisual Technician Fire Alarm Technician Home Theatre Technician Security Technician Video Technician Thank you. Hi, Do you have an update with your application? I'm looking at the Electronic Instrument Trades Worker, so similar but slightly different. How did you find the TRA application form? Thanks Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Weedon Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hi, Do you have an update with your application? I'm looking at the Electronic Instrument Trades Worker, so similar but slightly different. How did you find the TRA application form? Thanks Karl The part I'm struggling with is in the employment statement it asks for 'Detailed description of nature and content of the work undertaken' and on the TRA MSA application form it asks for 'description of your work', are these two things not the same thing? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomCop Posted February 7, 2016 Author Share Posted February 7, 2016 Hi Karl The detailed description and nature of and content of your work undertaken are for your employer to describe what you do day to day. Your role, what they observe you do etc. Your description is far more detailed (I know it seems backwards) but you need to include every little detail possible. You have to remember that these Case Officers may have never worked in your trade before, so describe every tool, how you would use it etc. PomCop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnbecci Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Hi I am a Technical Cable Jointer in the UK. I have been told despite me having NVQ 2 and working full time aswell for the past 3 years (whilst in training) I am unable to get Skilled Migrant Assessment. i looked at the Optional Skills Assessment but because I am not on the TRA nomination list they wont asses me. I am on the NSW nomination list and also the SOL list. I need an assesment for a 189 visa (not for points) and also to get my trade license in Oz ANYBODY KNOW how i can get assessed please? Iv emailed all licensing and governments also TRA, VETESS but nobody is giving me a clear answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomCop Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 Hi Joshnbecci, I believe you may be able to get your trade assessed by the Down Under Centre (they basically assess you and you are given the Australian equivalent qualification). Check out their website here: http://www.downundercentre.com/australian-skill-assessments Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John from Moneycorp Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Hi Joshnbecci, I believe you may be able to get your trade assessed by the Down Under Centre (they basically assess you and you are given the Australian equivalent qualification). Check out their website here: http://www.downundercentre.com/australian-skill-assessments Good luck! The Down Under Centre is very good and I know Wes personally, good guy to know as can help with other aspects of your move too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnbecci Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Wes is unable to help as the RTO doesnt assess my partner skills he isnt an electrition he is a Technical Cable Jointer. So were still trying to find how to get assessed other then Skilled Migration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Weedon Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi Karl The detailed description and nature of and content of your work undertaken are for your employer to describe what you do day to day. Your role, what they observe you do etc. Your description is far more detailed (I know it seems backwards) but you need to include every little detail possible. You have to remember that these Case Officers may have never worked in your trade before, so describe every tool, how you would use it etc. PomCop Hi PomCop, Just to clarify, so the section for the employer to describe will basically be my job description but with alot more detail? For my description, is it best that I write multiple examples of tasks that I do in order to cover all the criteria? There's a real lack of guidelines with this form and I don't want to have it rejected! Cheers Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnbecci Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi again my partner is a Technical Cable Jointer 342212 he has been employed full time with Northern Powergrid since 08/2013 he has spoke to his NVQ 2 and his course was complete 08/2015. So this means he has 2 years training whilst doing his NVQ and 1 years post qualification. The ANZSCO says: Skill Level 3 : Occupations at Skill Level 3 have a level of skill commensurate with one of the following: - NZ Register Level 4 qualification - AQF Certificate IV or - AQF Certificate III including at least two years of on-the-job training. At least three years of relevant experience may substitute for the formal qualifications listed above. In some instances relevant experience and/or on-the-job training may be required in addition to the formal qualification.I need to assessed under the Skilled Migration as I'm not on the criteria for the Offshore skills assessment. The Skilled Migration says you need 3 years experience to apply for your skills to be assessed, but ANZSCO says I need 2. Do I stand a good chance if I put my assesment in after 2yrs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azh Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hi there, would you perhaps know what type of questions are asked during the technical interview for a chef? Hope to hear from you...... Hello mate.. Very late reply but if you haven't all ready attended the interview.. The questions are so basic, it almost caught me out. http://www.vetassess.com.au/skills-assessment-for-migration/trade-occupations/guides-and-factsheets Look down on the link and open the fact sheet PDF, they just go through each one of those sections on a slide show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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