Jikolji Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 We are planning to apply for a 143/173 visa for my mother in law and had a few questions that we hope someone could help us with. The form asks for level of English by the applicant. How significant is this as she has very little English ability? The form also asks how much money she is bringing to the country. Is it a problem if she doesn't bring anything. We have funds available in our offset mortgage account to cover the application and Aos. Would it be helpful to transfer this money into a normal bank account for the duration of the application process? When calculating income for Aos is this based on the individual's income or the households income? Am I correct in understanding that the application fee is paid straight away and the first payment and aos are lodged on approval of the visa with the secon payment (173 visa) paid 2 years later? Apart from cost and payment structure does it make any difference to apply for the 143 over the 173? many thanks for any information you can give me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Can't you just work your way through the checklist? It is long but does not seem that complicated? [h=3]Document checklist[/h]You need to provide documents to support your application for this visa. We can make a decision using the information you provide when you lodge your application. It is in your interest to provide as much information as possible with your application. Provide certified copies of original documents. Do not include original documents unless we specifically ask for them. Police certificates should be original documents. Documents not in English must be accompanied by accredited English translations. Use this checklist to make sure your application is complete. If you already hold a Contributory Parent (Temporary) visa (subclass 173) and your circumstances have not changed since you were granted that visa, pay the visa application charge and provide only the following documents: all documents listed under 'Forms' all documents listed under 'Receiving assistance'. [h=4]Forms[/h] For most applicants: Form 47PA Application for a parent to migrate to Australia (525 kB PDF) For applicants who are Contributory Parent (Temporary) visa (subclass 173) holders: Form 47PT Application for migration to Australia by a Contributory Parent (Temporary) or Contributory Aged Parent (Temporary) visa holder (390 kB PDF) [*]Your sponsor must also complete: Form 40 Sponsorship for migration to Australia (305 kB PDF). For anyone included in the application who is 18 years of age or older and is not your partner: Form 47a Details of child or other dependent family member aged 18 years or over (238 kB PDF). [h=4]Charges[/h] Pay the first instalment of the visa application charge. [h=4]Receiving assistance[/h] If someone gives you advice or lodges your application for you: Form 956 Advice by a migration agent/exempt person of providing immigration assistance (133 kB pdf) (the agent or exempt person completes the form and you must sign it). [*]If you would like someone else to receive correspondence from us on your behalf: Form 956a Appointment or withdrawal of an authorised recipient (116 kB pdf) (the recipient completes the form and you must sign it). [h=4]Your identity[/h] Certified copies of the biographical pages of the current passports or travel documents that you, your partner and your dependants used to enter Australia, and of any passports held since then. If your name has changed or the name of anyone included in your application has changed: a certified copy of evidence of the name change. [h=4]Your relationships[/h] Certified copies of marriage certificates or relationship registrations for you and anyone else included in your application, even if they are not joining you in Australia. If you are living in a de facto relationship: independent evidence that your relationship is genuine and continuing (for example, joint bank account statements, billing accounts in joint names or joint ownership of major assets). If you or anyone included in the application has been widowed, divorced or permanently separated: a certified copy of the death certificate, divorce documents, or statutory declaration separation documents. Evidence of financial dependency for all your family members aged 18 or older: a certified copy of their birth certificate and proof of their relationship to you proof that they live in your household If they are not your partner, proof that they have been financially dependent on you for at least the 12 months immediately before you lodge your application. [h=4]Your children[/h] Certified copies of birth certificates or the family book showing the names of both parents for all your children and step-children, even if they are not joining you in Australia. If any dependent child included in the application is adopted: certified copies of the adoption papers. If you want to bring a child younger than 18 years of age with you to Australia, and that child’s other parent is not included in the application: documentary evidence that you have the legal right to bring that child to Australia, such as: certified copies of official legal documents, such as a court-issued parental responsibility (custody), access or guardianship order statutory declaration (80 kB pdf) giving their permission Form 1229 Consent form to grant an Australian visa to a child under the age of 18 years (125 kB pdf). If you use Form 1229 or a statutory declaration, you will have to attach a certified copy of the other parent’s government-issued identification document (such as a passport or driver's licence) with their photograph and signature. [h=4]Your sponsor[/h]You must be sponsored by an Australian citizen, Australian permanent resident or eligible New Zealand citizen. The sponsor needs to have been living lawfully in Australia for at least two years before you apply for this visa. For most applicants, your child or your child's spouse or de facto partner will need to sponsor you. If your child is younger than 18 years of age you can be sponsored by: your child's spouse, if the spouse has turned 18 and is a settled Australian citizen, permanent resident or eligible New Zealand citizen a relative or guardian of your child a relative or guardian of your child's spouse, if the spouse has not turned 18 and is a settled Australian citizen, permanent resident or eligible New Zealand citizen a community organisation. More information about sponsoring is available in the 'Sponsors' tab. If your sponsor is your child: evidence of your relationship to your child, such as certified copies of: birth certificates a family book showing family relationships other acceptable evidence of your relationship. [*]If your sponsor is a relative, partner or guardian of your child, evidence of this relationship, such as certified copies of: birth certificates a family book showing family relationships marriage certificates evidence of guardianship other acceptable evidence of the relationship between your child and the sponsor. [*]If your sponsor is a community organisation: their certificate of registration evidence that the organisation's representative has authority to act on behalf of the organisation (for example, the board or management committee's authority) evidence of their financial capacity to support you after you arrive in Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARYROSE02 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I don't think it matters whether your relative can speak English, nor whether she/he has funds as long as you have them, and proof of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridgeman Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) We are planning to apply for a 143/173 visa for my mother in law and had a few questions that we hope someone could help us with. The form asks for level of English by the applicant. How significant is this as she has very little English ability? The form also asks how much money she is bringing to the country. Is it a problem if she doesn't bring anything. We have funds available in our offset mortgage account to cover the application and Aos. Would it be helpful to transfer this money into a normal bank account for the duration of the application process? When calculating income for Aos is this based on the individual's income or the households income? Am I correct in understanding that the application fee is paid straight away and the first payment and aos are lodged on approval of the visa with the secon payment (173 visa) paid 2 years later? Apart from cost and payment structure does it make any difference to apply for the 143 over the 173? many thanks for any information you can give me.[/quote Usually new migrants are required to learn some English so I assume that is the point of their question. Does she have a house to sell? If so I would just put the value of the house or the value of any contents she has. The processing time for the 173/143 visa is around 20 months, so you could transfer the funds and get some interest on it. Going the 173 to 143 route allows you to split the cost but you do end up paying slightly more. You will pay the initial VAC and then the second VAC for the 173 (almost half the total visa cost) is payable before the grant of the 173. You then have 2 years in which to apply for the 143 - processing takes around 4-6 months - and you pay the remainder of the large VAC and the AOS. You can either put up the AOS yourself or a joint one with your partner. It can also be any permanent resident or citizen. If you have any more questions there is a parent visa thread which is a sticky at the top of this forum. Edited October 2, 2014 by Bridgeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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