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Old 29-01-2007, 07:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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please can someone give me advice

Hi there,

Hoping someone can tell me if it is possible for us to move to oz if i'm the sole worker, my husband is unable to work due to back problems so can he be classed as the house husband whilst i work in hairdressing. We would also have over £250,000 to take with us.

Please advise, thanks very much.

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Old 30-01-2007, 12:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
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That ought not be a problem, so long as your husband passes the medical examination.

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Old 30-01-2007, 12:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi ethanj13

http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1916

If you click on the link above, you can get a free assessment from Phil Olsen, He is a Registered Migration Agent, so he could explain skill-based visas to you far better than I ever could and he could do a lot to help you to get started with inestigating all this.

However, I believe that hairdressing is a skill which is in demand in Australia. I think you have to have proper qualifications and also quite a lot of experience, though. Do you have both?

You say that Hubby is unable to work because of his back. How badly does it affect him? What is the problem? Is he in receipt of long-term Disability Living Allowance in the UK? (Whic is not means-tested, so if he is too disabled to work, Hubby should be entitled to this.)

The reason I ask is because if someoe of working age would be unable to work in Australia because of illness or disability, then there can be problems with meeting the medical criteria for migration to Oz.

Do not panic at this stage, however. It very much depends on what exactly is wrong and how disabling it really is. If you can tell us more about this then we can offer more help.

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Old 30-01-2007, 06:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks guys for the replys.

This is back to Gill.

My husband has had three back ops and is having a fourth very soon, he has alot of discs problems and as a result of three ops in two years he has losted alot of feeling in his leg and it gives way, he also has a walking stick. He is in the process of applying for DLA, he has been signed off work from the Gp for good and is currently getting incapicity benefit. (all this is a result of being a professional rugby league player.)
I have just qualified in hairdressing so dont have the years of experience yet. just wanted to know if we can come to Oz with my husbands condition. He is fine in himself just has a limit to what he can do, so can he be classed as the house husband and me the worker to get in?!!

Thankyou so much for your help and advice
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Old 30-01-2007, 11:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hi again, Danielle

Alan Collett, who was the first person to answer this thread, is one of the most experienced and respected Migration Agents in the business. Not many earn my own respect and confidence, but Alan & Phil Olsen are two who definitely do.

I'm not a Migration Agent and the only reason I know anything about the meds issue is because my own mother has migrated to Oz recently, and she is also disabled (much more disabled than Hubby) as a result of fracturing her spine 11 years ago. However, please do not leap to conclusions because Mum is 86 so the parameters really aren't similar enough for my family's experience to be of any direct assistance to you.

Nonetheless.... It is too soon to draw any conclusions at all in your own case and more questions need answering in your situation, I think.

1. How old are each of you and Hubby respectively?

2. Is he expected to regain the feeling in his legs? (Is the next operation aimed at curing the loss of feeling and restoring full strength and mobility eventually?)

There are two potential issues here, I think, being:

a) What has the medical bill been hitherto and what is it likely to be in the future?; and

b) Would Hubby be or become eligible for access to Australia's Disability Support Pension if he were to be allowed to move to Oz permanently?

I'm not going to pull punches, lovey. Hubby's back-problems could be a barrier here. Could be - not definitely would be.

This is a very highly specialised area of Law. A handful of Australia-based solicitors and Migration Agents know what they are doing with it and nobody who isn't a specialist in the medico-legal arena should even attempt to dabble in it, because mere guesses will NOT do in this area.

There are some cases where the actual medical condition involved creates a borderline case. In those situations, very, very careful and skilled help is needed - and it is very expensive to buy. Skilled presentation and argument can turn a medically-borderline application into a visa-grant. An inexperienced, incompetent bungle with the handling of the meds-situation will often definitely cause a visa-refusal in a borderline case.

I think that with you, the best thing is to leave the meds-question here for the moment, because unless your hairdressing qualifications and experience are of the types that would get you through the TRA, the question of where Hubby would stand with the meds is irrelevant anyway.

I would say that, for the moment, just be aware that the meds might be a problem, but for the moment let us find out whether you would be OK on the TRA.

I can't help you to find out about the hairdressing end of this because I have no hairdressing skills or know-how. (I just bung a rake through mine and hope for the best. I go to a hairdresser when it needs cutting.)

Find out about the hairdressing qualifications/experience technicalities and the Points-Test side of this first, I would suggest. That bit you should be able to do more or less for free. This process is NOT quick and it involves a VAST amount of head-banging on the internet, I assure you, based on my personal experience of handling my mother's recent visa-application for her!!

Please keep in touch and let me know how you get on?

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Hi again Gill,

Thanks again for your information.
Iam 31 years old and my hubby is 30, and we have two children aged 3 and 8 months.
My husbands next op is to try and reduce some of his pain and thats all. We our basing are future on that he won't work again and won't get any better with time ( hopefully he might). He should'nt need more hospital care after this next op and he will just be on strong pain and nerve tablets for the rest of his life, but otherwise he will live normally. There isnt a medical term i can say that hes got, so would it effect the medicals he would need, apart from that his health is great. (Medical records would just say major back, nerve and right leg damage).
Pension wise from the australian disability support pension we dont know anything about it, we would not try to get any money from them at all, he has his own pensions.

Hairdressers are definatley wanted. I have been told all different info on experience that i need. If i got state sponserd would that mean i could apply straight away.?

look forward to hearing from you

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Hi again, Danielle

Alan Collett, who was the first person to answer this thread, is one of the most experienced and respected Migration Agents in the business. Not many earn my own respect and confidence, but Alan & Phil Olsen are two who definitely do.

I'm not a Migration Agent and the only reason I know anything about the meds issue is because my own mother has migrated to Oz recently, and she is also disabled (much more disabled than Hubby) as a result of fracturing her spine 11 years ago. However, please do not leap to conclusions because Mum is 86 so the parameters really aren't similar enough for my family's experience to be of any direct assistance to you.

Nonetheless.... It is too soon to draw any conclusions at all in your own case and more questions need answering in your situation, I think.

1. How old are each of you and Hubby respectively?

2. Is he expected to regain the feeling in his legs? (Is the next operation aimed at curing the loss of feeling and restoring full strength and mobility eventually?)

There are two potential issues here, I think, being:

a) What has the medical bill been hitherto and what is it likely to be in the future?; and

b) Would Hubby be or become eligible for access to Australia's Disability Support Pension if he were to be allowed to move to Oz permanently?

I'm not going to pull punches, lovey. Hubby's back-problems could be a barrier here. Could be - not definitely would be.

This is a very highly specialised area of Law. A handful of Australia-based solicitors and Migration Agents know what they are doing with it and nobody who isn't a specialist in the medico-legal arena should even attempt to dabble in it, because mere guesses will NOT do in this area.

There are some cases where the actual medical condition involved creates a borderline case. In those situations, very, very careful and skilled help is needed - and it is very expensive to buy. Skilled presentation and argument can turn a medically-borderline application into a visa-grant. An inexperienced, incompetent bungle with the handling of the meds-situation will often definitely cause a visa-refusal in a borderline case.

I think that with you, the best thing is to leave the meds-question here for the moment, because unless your hairdressing qualifications and experience are of the types that would get you through the TRA, the question of where Hubby would stand with the meds is irrelevant anyway.

I would say that, for the moment, just be aware that the meds might be a problem, but for the moment let us find out whether you would be OK on the TRA.

I can't help you to find out about the hairdressing end of this because I have no hairdressing skills or know-how. (I just bung a rake through mine and hope for the best. I go to a hairdresser when it needs cutting.)

Find out about the hairdressing qualifications/experience technicalities and the Points-Test side of this first, I would suggest. That bit you should be able to do more or less for free. This process is NOT quick and it involves a VAST amount of head-banging on the internet, I assure you, based on my personal experience of handling my mother's recent visa-application for her!!

Please keep in touch and let me know how you get on?

Best wishes

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Old 31-01-2007, 09:33 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Danielle

I really wish I could do more to help but I have no idea how the skills-side of the different skilled visas works. Some issues - like the health criteria - are common to all visas but the actual skills-thing is a closed book to me because I've never wanted to migrate to Oz. My sister lives there.

I honestly think that your best bet is to ring a few Migration Agents and see what they say. Most of them will chat to you for for free in order to find out what the score is and whether or not they would be able to help.

What is the difficulty for you on the skilled side? Is it that you have the qualification but not the experience or something?

This really is a very plodding, step-by-step process, honey. Have you tried phoning some Migration Agents in the UK to see what they say about you in relation to the skills-side of this? If not, I would suggest doing so because the first thing to discover here is whether your qualifications and experience would make you eligible for a visa at all and if so which one or ones. (A lot of skilled applicants are eligible for more than one visa - that is not unusual at all.)

If you tell Google something like Australian Immigration + Agents and tell it to search webpages in the UK, you'll get any number of links.

I wouldn't even mention Hubby. Just say that you would be the main applicant because you seem to be the one with the relevant qualification and leave it at that for the time being, I would suggest.

We need to find out whether you are eligible for migration at all and if so, which visas you should be considering, I suggest. I suspect from your other thread that the problem could be lack of enugh years of experience?

A hairdresser with the right qualifications and enough experience would be eligible for any of the skilled visas, I would imagine. So I don't understand why you think that you might need to consider the State sponsorship route?

Puzzled :?

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Danielle,

All skilled visa applicants must have recent work experience in a skilled occupation, unless you have recently obtained a relevant and suitable qualification in Australia.

The question then becomes how much recent work experience do you need?

If you can secure a State Nomination you might look at what is called a Skills Matching visa (subclass number 134). 134 visas have a recent work experience requirement of 6 months in the 12 months immediately before you lodge the visa application with the Department of Immigration - this is the lowest work experience requirement of all the general skilled visas. Other visa categories (eg the Skilled Independent visa, subclass number 136) will require 12 months out of the last 18 in a skilled occupation.

Another advantage of the 134 visa pathway is that it is not points tested.

Please also be aware that I understand a few migration agents are not fully up to speed with 134 visas as a viable pathway; we have had several granted recently, including one for a hairdresser.


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Hi again Gill,

Thanks again for your information.

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Hairdressers are definatley wanted. I have been told all different info on experience that i need. If i got state sponserd would that mean i could apply straight away.?

look forward to hearing from you

Regards Danielle

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Thankyou for your help and advice Alan, it's of great help.

Will speake to you again in the near future.

Thanks again
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Hi Danielle and Alan

Alan, you are a STAR!! Danielle, you would not go wrong with Go Matilda, which is Alan's firm, based in Southampton as far as its UK office is concerned but there are offices in Australia as well.

I'd say DEFO have a chat with Marina Towner, Danielle.

However, when you talk with Marina, explain to her that you have been in touch with Alan via this forum, and that he is aware of the situation with Hubby's back. Make sure she is aware of it too - about the next operation and what the medics are saying about the likely prognosis etc.

This remains something which is a very painstaking, plodding, step-by-step process in real life. You will not be surprised to learn that the reality of the process is nothing like glib depiction on BBC 1 at the minute. According to Nadia Wotsit, you hop on a plane to Oz for a week and if you like what you see, bingo! Next thing, you'll be living in Oz by this time next month, so the programme suggests. Which is complete nonsense. But then so is most telly! (Apart from Rick Stein. I could have him cooking for me.....!)

Chooks, I really think that this could be a turning point in trying to help you. Please, please ring Marina? You would not be charged for the initial chat. Ring others as well by all means but I am heavily-inclined to believe Alan when he says that not all Agents understand the skill-matching visa.

Make that call, lassie. And please let me know how you get on?

All the best

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