pretend openness ? There's plenty here that can get there point across with out abuse , as for haters. Only one I can see , not sure if he's a genuine hater or escapee. I still don't believe that Sri Lanka is a genuine source of asylum seekers . And still no evidence posted as I've asked before ,does that make me a hater. ? . No wonder they're digging in, are they supposed to be bullied into changing their minds ? You and harpo are hardly coming across as ambassadors of diplomacy are you. People have genuine concerns over the validity , number and conditions of travel . Take the case of the afghan Sikhs in the uk container. One dead. , should the smuggler be given medals for helping them to sanctuary or prosecuted for manslaughter ? Under your rules they'd be heroes wouldn't they. ?