Indianinoz

Thanks for your reply but I think this is not correct. As far as I know, we can't apply for citizenship for a baby without getting his Permanent Residency first. The only exceptions are if the child becomes a citizen by birth or descent. In my case, he was born overseas to me and my wife and we were both Permanent Residents only(and not citizens) at the time of his birth. So this is a case of citizenship by conferral and for that, becoming a PR for my son is a pre-requisite to apply for Citizenship. So until he gets his Visa 101 which is child PR visa, I don't think we can proceed with citizenship. Please confirm if my understanding is correct.

Thanks, I had done that already but I still have questions or need clarifications as mentioned above.

Thanks for your reply. In our case, the parents i.e. me and my wife applied for citizenship in Dec 2019 and the baby was born in April 2022 overseas when parents were stuck in India due to COVID.

Hello, A baby was born to parents (both of whom were Permanent Residents of Australia) at the time of his birth. The baby was born overseas in India. The baby's Child PR Visa subclass 101 was applied within 2 months of his birth. Now the entire family has returned to Australia. The parents have, since then, become Australian Citizens. What is the criteria for citizenship of the baby? a) Can the baby's parents apply for Citizenship for the baby directly or should he become get the Visa 101 grant first and then apply for Citizenship? b) If the family goes overseas for a few years, can the baby apply for Citizenship from overseas? In other words, will the baby's entire Citizenship process that includes Application, processing and grant along with Passport and OCI(Overseas Citizenship of India) card happen overseas or will it get stuck as the baby is not in Australia at any stage? c) What is the time line for baby's Citizenship application? As I understand it will be a Citizenship by conferral. But in baby's case, considering he is less than 1 years old, there will not be any citizenship test/interview, ceremony, police checks etc. So the process should be far quicker than an adult. But any estimated timeline? Also, anything that the parents need to keep in mind or beware of?

Hello, A baby was born to parents (both of whom were Permanent Residents of Australia) at the time of his birth. The baby was born overseas in India. The baby's Child PR Visa subclass 101 was applied within 2 months of his birth. Now the entire family has returned to Australia. The parents have, since then, become Australian Citizens. What is the criteria for citizenship of the baby? a) Can the baby's parents apply for Citizenship for the baby directly or should he become get the Visa 101 grant first and then apply for Citizenship? b) If the family goes overseas for a few years, can the baby apply for Citizenship from overseas? In other words, will the baby's entire Citizenship process that includes Application, processing and grant along with Passport and OCI(Overseas Citizenship of India) card happen overseas or will it get stuck as the baby is not in Australia at any stage? c) What is the time line for baby's Citizenship application? As I understand it will be a Citizenship by conferral. But in baby's case, considering he is less than 1 years old, there will not be any citizenship test/interview, ceremony, police checks etc. So the process should be far quicker than an adult. But any estimated timeline? Also, anything that the parents need to keep in mind or beware of?

Thanks for your opinion. In our case, we want to live in Australia. But we prefer to wait by about 4-6 months after the birth of the baby to travel to Australia. I don't there are visas other Visa 101 and Visa 802 for obtaining Child PR.

Are you willing to help here on this forum? As I cannot afford to pay a migration agent at this time.

Can someone guide please?

Which is the better visa? Visa 101 may take up to 36 months.

Of course. But I'm not sure if you've understood it totally. Even if I apply Visa 101, there is a good chance that the Visa won't be granted in 4-6 months after the birth of the baby. Which means if we choose Visa 101, then we might end up in Australia(through a tourist visa) with neither PR Visa nor Bridging Visa. Eventually, the child will get PR, but the processing time for Visa 101 is longer than Visa 802. Processing time for Visa 101(offshore visa): 25% of applications: 8 months 50% of applications: 14 months 75% of applications: 25 months 90% of applications: 36 months Processing time for Visa 802(onshore visa): 25% of applications: 6 months 50% of applications: 8 months 75% of applications: 10 months 90% of applications: 24 months

Me, my wife and my 2 year old son all have Medicare. Me and my wife are PR and our 2 yr old son is a citizen. My wife on her way to give birth to our 2nd child anytime in the next 2 weeks. We are currently stuck overseas, so the baby will not be a Pr/Citizen by birth and thus won't have Medicare facility immediately. Upon landing in Australia, I wish to get Health Insurance for the new born baby only. Not for the other 3 members of the family. I believe that not all insurers allow insuring of an infant only. Which insurers allow this and which one do you recommend?

We are wanting to travel to Australia within 4-6 months of the birth of the baby. If we choose Visa 101, assuming we apply within a month of the baby's birth, and if we don't get the Visa approved within 3-4 months, we are going to apply for a visitor visa and fly to Australia. This would mean that we with Visa 101, we land up the risk of not having Medicare for a long time i.e. until Visa 101 is processed which may take anywhere between 8 months(25% applications processing time) to 36 months(90% applications processing time). Whereas with Visa 802, not only is the processing time shorter, we also get a bridging visa within 2-3 months after applying. This bridging visa at least gives some kind of Medicare. So are you still sure that Visa 101 is best suited for us?

Yes we do have RRVs

Thanks Quoll, I understand that for Visa 101 to be granted, the baby has to exit the country and come back. This is not a problem as we can make a same day return or next day return trip to say Fiji. Question is whether Visa 101 is better than Visa 802 in my case? Applying for Visa 802 gives the baby bridging visa which is a major advantage but I still Visa 101 makes more sense in my case.

Me and my wife are permanent residents and stuck overseas. We are expecting a baby in the next few days. As we are not citizens, child will not get Australian Citizenship or even PR automatically. We intend to fly back to Australia within 4-6 months after birth of the baby. We have to choose between Visa 101(apply offshore i.e. from overseas) and Visa 802(apply onshore from Australia). If we choose Visa 802, we need to obtain visitor visa for the baby first and then apply Visa 802 from Australia. If we choose Visa 101, and if it is not processed within 3-4 months, then we need to obtain visa to fly to Australia. I would prefer to apply for Visa 101 right away. Though processing time for Visa 802 is shorter, Visa 101 will be applied about 6 months earlier than Visa 802. So it probably evens out. Which is a better option and why? Note: We travelled overseas due to a family emergency. Then I underwent 2 wrist surgeries. Then my wife got pregnant. We still tried to fly back twice but our flights got cancelled due to COVID both times. Then my wife's mom died. So considering these circumstances, we are planning to apply for priority processing with the Minister of Immigration for Visa 101, if we apply Visa 101 and not Visa 802. Whether you think priority processing will be successful?