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Old 28-03-2008, 11:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi Richard

I hope you don't mind me asking but you have sent an e-mail to my OH asking him to send all his details after meeting at the Expo. While reading all these threads though I am a little confused. We are currently awaiting our PR visa so would not be looking for sponsorship.... but obvisouly are looking for a job. Is this something that you can still help us with or have we got our wires crossed.

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Old 28-03-2008, 11:28 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thank Tahe,

The literature is a bit confusing I admit. Basically we have two ways that we help overseas workers. The first is as a sponsor under 457, and also as a more traditional '...headhunter..' recruiter for our clients where the overseas worker is already in the process of/ or has gained their PR Visa.

The stage 1 recruitement process is the same for all applications, in that we have everyone fill in a Registration Form, a Self assessment form, and forward us 3 references. We don't normally ask people to initially send us a reference from their current employer as we don't want to prejudice their job. It is a bit long winded, but bear in mind that often the first time an Overseas worker actually meets their employer face to face will be on day one of the job, therefore the information we ask fo has to be as detailed as possible. We do also ask everyone to sign up with Skype so that a face to face interview with Australia is easy to arrange, and most importantly free.

I hope this explains it a little more.

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Old 28-03-2008, 02:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Dad is an electrical engineer aged 47/48. He hs 20 years of unbroken work experience in this field.

They looked into the possibility of migrating to Oz a couple of years ago but gave up when they discovered that 45 is the cut off age for skilled independent migration.

James says Dad is now asking whether he would really have a viable chance of finding an employer-sponsor at his age? My own feeling is that if he can get the necessary skills assessment and the type of electrical work that he does is on the MODL, then Dad should be in with as good a chance of getting employer sponsorship as anyone else?

However, you guys do this for a living. I don't.

Your comments - encouraging or otherwise - would be very gratefully received.

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Hi Gill

The skills can be determined via trade assessment as per Alan Collett's methodology.

There is possibility for age waiver on an RSMS visa, which requires 2 years regional living before PR van be obtained. The waiver is decided on case by case basis, and will require a strong submission to State Government about why the waiver is necessary.

That is probably employer evidence of advertising the job and failure to receive good candidates, together with higher priority.

Now you get down to whether or not someone will hire a 47 year old. That is more a matter of supply and demand, and employer preference. In many occupations age will not matter as employers have fewer choices.

WFS could do it but probably have enough to do now with 457s, and unlike the 457 the RSMS visa offers no ties the employer can use to "preserve" loyalty other than being a good boss, so it depends what they would offer and how they would treat anyone, and whether or not they have enough good regional employer contacts and subcontracts.

So in my opinion FWIW, it's a matter of tracking down employers with the greatest need and working it out with them. We have worked out ways to track them down, it's a time consuming search as many employers have sadly given up advertising.

Therefore age 45 is theoretically not a cutoff for a skills visa as long ast there is good reason (employment offer, preferred occupation) and a strong case put forward for any of the 3 state governments we've been talking to to grant the exception.

And in practical terms, there is no guarantee that anyone who meets the simple formula above would be guaranteed a good result.

But for my money it's cheaper, faster to get PR and less onerous than the adult student visa system some would want to follow as a last resort.
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Old 28-03-2008, 02:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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hi all. as you may or may not know, im dealing with workforce solutions at the moment and have and interview or 3 lined up in brisbane..lol (looking for the best offer and best wages .. richard lol). thers has been quite alot thrown at WS lately and it would appear richard has answered these questions to the best of his knowledge, now im not standing in WS corner or anything but has anyone had any other problems or concerns over any other agencies.. ie hire a migrant???? i for one would be very interested to hear of anyone having these types of questions and possibly horror stories or ones that have turned out great!!!!!!!!! can anyone enlighten me??? john and marie
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hey it sounds like ive stirred up a right hornets nest!! I only wanted to know at the begining who ws were? Because they were the only company to email me back after the expo!! its all very interesting stuff!! So do you have any bricklaying placements? and whats your rate of pay? thanks


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