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Old 25-02-2008, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Dont expect to be a millionaire when you get to Oz if your a Plumber !!!!

Hi all
Just before you say anything, this is'nt a negative thread ... we actually love Australia (been here over 8 weeks now and certainly don't want to go home) but thought i'd let any Plumbers/plumbers wives know of our experience getting Plumbing jobs in Oz.
Before we left the UK we was'nt able to find out much about pay etc., as most plumbing jobs advertisements dont actually put the salary in the advert.... its all negotiable !!!
Also, we knew my hubby would have to get Registered and/or Licenced and possibly retrain out here but was'nt sure how, when and why and its apparently different in each state.
So here goes, these are our experience as follows:
When we first arrived we had to contact the Plumbing Industry Commision in Victoria about Registration. However, we arrived in December and bare in mind that most trades, industries and institution close for the holidays over christmas, new year and a bit more (as its there summer too) so it was all closed till mid/end Jan. so had to week weeks to contact them.
You have to pay $50 approx. to get the ball rolling.
We then had to wait for an appointment with them, a few weeks later (by this time it was begin.Feb).
My hubby had an interview/chat with them and because he had a vast experience in plumbing with over 25 years in the trade, they granted him a Provisional Registration for a year (cost $85 and another $85 for a Gas info. book). Some people only get 3 months provisional or not until you have done the exams, depending on your experience.
However, within that year, he still has to take training and exams before the registration runs out. The training is over $600 then the exams are over $600 to (that for 5 components and there are six, so if you want them all that would be more)
So, considering he has all this experience, he has been offered work for, dont laugh......$800 per week (thats before tax, and then you have to supply your own work vehicle)
The most he has been told he could earn would be $50,000 or if he's lucky $60,000 a year
. Thats quite tight after stoppages with six of us in the house, and teenage boys who dont stop eating all the time!!!!! Local firms will take you on without any Registration atall, but for even less money.. as they have to get another Plumber to sign off your work.
Now, you can go self employed, but this needs further expense, as you would have to be Licensed as well as Registerd with expensive public liability insurance . The self employed option is where you can earn big bucks, as they say, but definately not a good idea when you first get here. You dont know the areas (and coz Oz is sooo big, they travel miles to each job, the bylaws & regulations are different, pipe sizes are different, fittings have different names, no electricity on housing sites so you have to get an expensive generator too and obviously it takes ages to get yourself a client base, contacts and a good reputation for yourself. Its certainly has to be done if you want a more comfortable lifestle, but definately would have to wait a while to establish yourself. OH is going to do that as soon as he can.

My OH spent hours too walking round the city looking for sites, and asking for jobs but could'nt get to talk to anyone, as did'nt have a Red card and work boots etc.,so he was'nt allowed on site, so he only came home with a few numbers. They work slightly different out here as you have to send in Resumes to the HR department and wait for a phone call.... they only ring you if they are interested!!!!
OH is stil hanging out for something better, but will have to take something local soon (as the old dollars run out pretty quick when you first arrive, especially with four kids in tow).

Just have to add...... we hav'nt even thought about coming home, we struggled financially back in the UK,so might aswell stay put and struggle out here, where the sun shines, where I know my kids are safer walking the streets, where everyones really friendly, steak and petrol are half the price, where we can go to the beach most days and nights till late and the lifestyle is more relaxed.

So if your a Plumber, dont expect too much at first..... but we still feel its all worth it, we have no regrets and we're still hanging on in there.
Good luck to all
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Old 25-02-2008, 06:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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good on ya sally-anna & family for hanging in there
just to add you wont become a millionaire if your a qualified carpenter but currently in the frameless glass trade either !!!!
hope that touch of luck comes along for you real soon
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Old 25-02-2008, 07:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Good post!!! tells it how it often is. I can't help thinking people who come here with an expectation that they're going to walk into top jobs or earn top dollar straight away are in for a big surprise. No matter what job you do you will have no contacts, no idea how the systems here work, no local knowledge... all in all a bloody big learning curve. Its never going to be about materialistic gains for poms... the standard of living is too similar and migrating will often set you back for a while.

$50-60K per year is bang in the middle of average earnings so its not bad money many have to survive on much less.

Plumbers in NSW and Qld (probably all states) earn some of the best money in the trades but as you rightly say it takes time to establish.
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Old 25-02-2008, 07:51 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Good post sally ann ,we too came to the realisiation we wouldnt be rich here pretty soon after arriving,the job front was ok but as you say pay not great,we will never be millionaires living in oz but we are a damn site happier,,!! hope everything comes together for you
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Old 25-02-2008, 09:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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great post sally ann.
my hubby is currently an engineer and earns roughly 23,000 in the uk. It is good to see the realistic side to the wage earning in oz,hopfully i will be working part time in oz too, so hoping that will help a little.We know that the streets arent paved with gold in oz, and have gone into it with eyes open. congrats to all that are trying to make it work,and are trying to make a better life for you and your families,well done.
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Old 25-02-2008, 12:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Sally - ann, Nick and the gang,
Glad to hear you are all getting on guys, although we are not plumbers it was interesting to read abit of a nice neg, to put us all prepared. As i will have to do the reg thingy with my skill, and i am not looking forward to the exams !!!!

Keep the posts coming mate...
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Old 25-02-2008, 12:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Please can someone tell me if it is the same for gasfitters??? we are prepared for a struggle, but after looking at info on the big old web, keep getting confused.....different licences.....different areas?? we are hoping to go to Perth, so if anyone has any details re gasfitters in perth, Please make my day!!! also if anyone out there has tickets for the Liverpool-Newcastle match 8thMarch they will really make my day!!! been on the phone since 8.30 this morning.!!! I want to scream!!!!...............anyway back to gasfitters????? where are you?????
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Still looking for Gasfitters in Perth???? xxx
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hi good post i am a plumber going to adelade have 8 yrs exp but with break in between am also corgi reg i can say im very excited but also worried about being dropped in the deep end until i get use to the dif types of fittings and there way of doing things did your oh get time to ajust or just get on with it straight away thanks for any info jez
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Still looking for Gasfitters in Perth???? xxx
I aint a gas fitter and i aint in perth but i am in cairns and im friends with a gas fitter. He moved here from perth. Your looking at similar things to do as a plumber with licencing and stuff but that goes for every trade. He is on $28 an hour but has phone paid for and a brand new ute. Like someone else said the big bucks are working for yourself more like $55-60 an hour!


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