PomsToOz Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 There has to be someone out there who can help me? PLEASE!! I am a 24 year old female who had a kidney transplant 5 years ago. I have been fit & healthy since! My partner and I are currently starting the process to apply for the Independent Skills Visa Subclass 189 and our agent recently informed us that my health could be an issue. I am seeking ANYONE who has any advice, been through the same situation or can just give me some support.. Feel free to email me or message me guys Ally xxx:wub::arghh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 When you apply to migrate with a health issue, Immigration looks at how much you're likely to cost the Australian tax-payer over your lifetime. They have a threshold, and if your costs go over that threshold, you won't be approved. In your case, they'd look at the cost of your immunosuppressant drugs, and the cost of a further transplant in the future, for instance. I'd say you should consult a migration agent who is experienced in looking after cases with health issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 I would suggest you seek out a migration agent who is experienced in dealing with health issues when applying for a visa. Its a lot of money to spend so make sure you are fully prepared for the health side of things. I'm surprised your agent didn't flag this up before hand tbh, to at least give you a better understanding of how the visa system and health aspect work and are assessed. I'd have hoped that at least this be mentioned before you spent a heap of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Usual advice is to talk to either George Lombard or Peter Bollard who are both agents who have good knowledge and understanding of the implications of medical conditions. They will give you good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomsToOz Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share Posted July 23, 2016 Hey guys, thank you for your help does anyone know how to find out about the threshold as Marisaeright has stated? Hope i dont get denied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) Definitely engage one of the agents mentioned. As a kidney patient, you will not only be battling against likely lifetime health costs but also the fact you may be competing against Australians for resources in scarce supply (i.e. donor organs). DIBP will be basing their judgements on average costs and resources required by someone with your condition. If you can get a specialist opinion that shows you are less likely to incur costs or require resources than an average person with your condition, it would be helpful. Generally, I think people with organ transplants struggle to meet the health requirement but it is not unknown for them to get visas. Edited July 23, 2016 by Quinkla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Hey guys, thank you for your help does anyone know how to find out about the threshold as Marisaeright has stated? Hope i dont get denied Talk to one of the agents mentioned. I'd not apply or take on an agent till you've had one of those look over your case. And perhaps consider using them to oversee your visa application. Its no good applying if you really don't are going to fail the health requirement and the financial aspect of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomsToOz Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Great advice everyone, We talk about this threshold.. does anyone know how to calculate this or where to find this info? Thanks again x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 $35k over 5 years is the latest I can find - which is why kids with additional needs at school often fail at this point - put in an STA for a year and you are looking at $20kpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomsToOz Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 On DIBP website I found current threshold is $40,000? x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 On DIBP website I found current threshold is $40,000? x Quite possibly - it was $35k a couple of years ago which is why we keep saying -talk to one of the agents who knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andromeda9 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Sadly I would think it's more than likely a no no get all the information from Poms,Internet,ect before parting with money for visas if it is a No no for sure, don't be sad just read all the people on here that want to go back HOME I miss the UK for sure It's good that you are fit and well my sister will soon be having a kidney transplant best wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomsToOz Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 I can't just give up, Australia is our dream. I have been there so many times, yes I would miss the UK for sure - it'll always be home but I have family in Oz and i want to be with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoll Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I can't just give up, Australia is our dream. I have been there so many times, yes I would miss the UK for sure - it'll always be home but I have family in Oz and i want to be with them Unfortunately not everyone who wants to move is able to - it's just another first world country so you won't be missing much if you can't. Them's the breaks unfortunately. You will only know if you apply and see what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanGary Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Hey, I had the same kind of worries as i had a bad kidney removed 9 years ago so only leaving me with the one healthy one.This really played on my mind all through the process and leading up to the medicals. Booked our meds for December last year,just before Xmas and im pleased to tell you we were granted our 189 visa in January of this year.Flights booked for 29th December to Melbourne so hopefully that puts your mind to rest a little! All the best on your journey. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PomsToOz Posted July 27, 2016 Author Share Posted July 27, 2016 I guess its not just the country, its my family. I have 2 young nephews, one of which has just been diagnosed with Austism, is it so wrong i want to be there to support them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petals Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Unfortunately anyone with chronic health problems has this problem when moving countries. Its not just moving or being able to, its whether you will be covered for the condition when you move. If you needed dialysis for example and had to pay for it, how. Health insurance companies are money making concerns and they have no qualms kicking people who are costing them too much from their policies. It happens here. Also our drugs are not subsidised as much as they are in the UK and how much would they cost if you had to pay full cost for them or even part cost. I know all this because my daughter is a type 1 diabetic and also has had brain cancer and she knows that it would be impossible for her to move countries, or very expensive for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisawright Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I had the same kind of worries as i had a bad kidney removed 9 years ago so only leaving me with the one healthy one.This really played on my mind all through the process and leading up to the medicals. Unfortunately I don't think your experience is relevant to the OP, Gary. You still have your own healthy kidney. Statistically, it's been proved that people with only one kidney are no more likely to die prematurely or suffer poor health than people with two kidneys, so Immigration wouldn't have been worried about your future health costs. The OP has had a kidney transplant. Unfortunately a transplanted kidney doesn't last forever. The current record is 40 years I think, but for many it's more like 12 years, which means she'll need another transplant in her 30's or 40's - and if she has migrated to Australia, the Australian taxpayer will have to pay for it. That's what Immigration will be worried about. Because we're so used to free health care in the UK, we don't realise how much these big operations actually cost. I had a spinal op in Australia a couple of years ago which involved 5 hours of surgery, a day in intensive care and three days in hospital. If I'd had to pay for it, it would've cost $35,000. So I'd imagine a kidney transplant would cost that and more, and there's the threshold practically blown already, without counting the cost of immunosuppressant medication. So I don't think it looks good. If I were in the OP's shoes, I wouldn't be paying that agent another cent. If he knew his job, he would be aware that her health condition is a big problem. Instead, I would be getting in touch with one of the agents who specialises in people with medical conditions and getting their opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoShaaban Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 hello, i have been through the same situation and i still need to answer please. are you apply for the Independent Skills Visa Subclass 189 and accept or not. please need answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VERYSTORMY Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 The same replies apply. You will need to speak to a specialist migration agent such as George Lombard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoShaaban Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 he is reply, I'm sorry, there isn't much hope for a 189 or 190, there's no health waiver if anyone in the family unit fails the medical, and for those visas you can be sure you'll fail the medical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 5 hours ago, MoShaaban said: he is reply, I'm sorry, there isn't much hope for a 189 or 190, there's no health waiver if anyone in the family unit fails the medical, and for those visas you can be sure you'll fail the medical. George Lombard is the agent who specialises in medical issues - if he says there is no hope then you can bet he is right. Organ transplants fail the medical test twice over - once for cost and once for use of scarce resources (likelihood of needing a repeat transplant). If the visa does not have a health waiver available, then it is just plain no. I know this will be disappointing, but George Lombard's candidness has probably saved you wasting a heap of money and time to get the same answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoShaaban Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Is it possible to waive medical insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoShaaban Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 also i am a not a sponsor, my wife will be applicant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinkla Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Waiving medical insurance doesn't make sense. You have your own answer from the migration agent who specialises in health issues. There is no point in keeping on rephrasing the question on a forum in the hope of getting an answer you like better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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