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Old 31-08-2008, 01:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tattoo after medical?

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Does anybody know whether you can have a tattoo after you've had your med? My husband had the blood test coz he already has a tattoo - but I'm thinking of getting my first. I know they wouldn't know unless they stripped me down but just want to play safe!
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Old 31-08-2008, 04:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you've already had your blood tests etc then I can't see it being a problem. Bit bummed that I'll have to have extra checks because of mine - especially as my back piece was done in Australia!!
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Old 31-08-2008, 05:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I would'nt of thought it would of made any difference.How are they going to know?I'd go for it!
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Old 31-08-2008, 05:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi!
Does anybody know whether you can have a tattoo after you've had your med? My husband had the blood test coz he already has a tattoo - but I'm thinking of getting my first. I know they wouldn't know unless they stripped me down but just want to play safe!
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Hello Jo

I very strongly recommend that you do not have any tattoo or anything else involving skin-piercing of any sort done until after you have validated your visas.

I don't know what the extra blood test that the Panel Doctor has to do if someone has a tattoo is for exactly, but I think it could be a test for Hepatitis, which I believe is a potentially nasty liver-disease.

The problem is that if you have a tattoo done after your medicals and you do not then have another blood test to go with the meds, to prove that you have not got whatever disease it is, your visa will be at risk if you are the unlucky one in a thousand who catches the disease. (I don't know whether they would also want another HIV test if somebody has a tattoo done in this situation, but I guess they might.)

Please see Form 1025i:

http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1025i.pdf

Specifically, please see the top right hand side of Page 2 where it speaks of a change of circumstances. That section is a layman's decription of Section 104 of the Migration Act 1958 and DIAC mean business about it.

In the application form you have not declared a known medical condition because as far as you know, you haven't got one. However if you should develop a potentially serious medical condition before your first arrival in Oz on your new visas, then you must declare the changed circumstances to DIAC prior to attempting to enter Australia on them.

If disclosure of a new medical condition is made, DIAC get a second bite at the question of whether or not the person still meets the Health Requirement for migration to Oz. If not, then the visa must be refused. Where someone has had a tattoo prior to attending his/her meds, the Panel Doctor is required to tick Box B on Form 26.

That means that the Medical Officer of the Commonwealth must examine the person's meds file because the clerical staff at the Health Operations Centre in Sydney are not competent to read blood test results etc.

If somebody, say, has a tattoo done between the meds and the date of validating the visa and contracts Hepatitis or whatever it is prior to validating the visa, then if this person validates the visa without the rigmarole described above but DIAC subsequently discover what has happened, they would potentially have the power to cancel the visas and deport the whole family. I am serious.

There has been a case very recently where the person concerned had the meds done for PR and all was well. The PR visa was duly granted. However before it could be validated, the person was diagnosed with a potentially serious medical condition which must have been brewing but the Panel Doctor apparently didn't spot it.

It is all OK because a Consultant's report was obtained and sent to the MOC, who has accepted the Consultant's opinion. Apparently it is a condition that could worsen but might not do so if treated with the right drugs or whatever, and so far the person only has a very mild degree of the condition. The MOC has accepted all that and has confirmed that the person still meets the health requirement.

Nevertheless nobody needs the sheer stress if they can avoid the potential problem arising in the first place, I would suggest.

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Just read Gollywobblers reply and yeah have to agree with her reply.I guess it would be ok after you have your visa's but yeah I'd hold off until that time comes to just make sure xx
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Old 31-08-2008, 07:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Oh thank you so much for replying!!!
I will take your advise Gill and wait till we're over in oz! Don't want to tempt fate as we've had a few obstacles already during our visa journey!
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Def not worth risking it Gill - didn't realise it was such an issue.

Where are you off to Jo? I can recommend a great tattooist in Newcastle, NSW.
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Hi - The test that the panel doctor can request for tattoos is for hepatitis. However, it isn't compulsory by any means. I have 2 pretty large tattoos and the panel doctor didn't even ask anything regarding where I'd had them done etc let alone make me have the test.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:12 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Wow I didn't know that you could Hep-C from a Tattoo needle ! This is what I found on the Net:
TransmissionThe hepatitis C virus (HCV) is transmitted by blood-to-blood contact. In developed countries, it is estimated that 90% of persons with chronic HCV infection were infected through transfusion of unscreened blood or blood products or via injecting drug use or by inhalational drug use. In developing countries, the primary sources of HCV infection are unsterilized injection equipment and infusion of inadequately screened blood and blood products


Body piercings and tattoos Tattooing dyes, ink pots, stylets and piercing implements can transmit HCV-infected blood from one person to another if proper sterilization techniques are not followed. Tattoos or piercings performed before the mid 1980s, "underground," or non-professionally are of particular concern since sterile techniques in such settings may have been or be insufficient to prevent disease. Despite these risks, it is rare for tattoos to be directly associated with HCV infection and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's position on this subject states that, "no data exist in the United States indicating that persons with exposures to tattooing alone are at increased risk for HCV infection.

Prevention

The following guidelines will prevent infection with the hepatitis C virus, which is spread by blood:
  • Avoid sharing drug needles or any other drug paraphernalia including works for injection or bills or straws
  • Avoid unsanitary tattoo methods
  • Avoid unsanitary body piercing methods and acupuncture
  • Avoid needlestick injury
  • Avoid sharing personal items such as toothbrushes, razors, and nail clippers.
  • Use latex condoms correctly and every time you have sex if not in a long-term monogamous relationship
Proponents of harm reduction believe that strategies such as the provision of new needles and syringes, and education about safer drug injection procedures, greatly decreases the risk of hepatitis C spreading between injecting drug users.
No vaccine protects against contracting hepatitis C, or helps to treat it. Vaccines are under development and some have shown encouraging results

I suppose that OZ is not taking the risk !!!
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Oh thank you so much for replying!!!
I will take your advise Gill and wait till we're over in oz! Don't want to tempt fate as we've had a few obstacles already during our visa journey!
Thank you again for taking time to reply!
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What you like woman ,lol, wait till you get here and i MIGHT contemplate having one done with you ,,only if you hold my hand cause its hurts!!!lol
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