moving to oz no longer viable and no longer value for money?
hi, we have been contemplating moving to oz for a few years now, we have been out there to mandurah and gold coast , we love it and want to move so badly but with pathway d gone we are now doing aqf level3 and in the process right now.
the thing is with the dollar now $1.95 to the pound and house prices out there hardly gone down much, i feel right now is not a good time and being a businessman there is no way im willing to lose out, for example when i was out there last year i got $2.40 to the pound. I have £100k to take with us and the plan was always to try and get morgage free or very close. This is no longer available in my opinion and a very bad time to go to oz right now if your british as we are not getting value for money.
Part of the fantasy about oz for me was to be morgage free, people say money is not everything but i personally like to thing outside the box and no way do i want to grind out working my arse off for ever, work in my opinion is over rated, i used to be a work a holic and it got me no where............i want to work less and start going to the gym and playing gold, tennis more often, to me thats living and this was the fantasy for me to move to oz as i could of been morgage free and obviously work less because of it, now though oz in reality i feel may just be the same as here, a rat race.
Is there anywhere else in the world that anyone can suggest right now for emmigrating with a wife and 2 young kids?......................florida and america is value for money right now and houses are so cheap in florida right now and obviuosly will not stay this way for long where as the same cannot be said about oz, if anything they are due for a big correction soon just like here........my father in law lives in thailand and he cannot spend £100 a week out there and has a house for like £18k and its absolutely beautiful, but the downside is of course thailand in reality is no good for a british family or though i have seen many uk families there and their children are in international schools................florida is value for money right now but i think many of the same problems we have here.
anyway what does everyone think?, is it time to hold back on oz for a few years? or is there now better options like thailand , florida, france?
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hi, we have been contemplating moving to oz for a few years now, we have been out there to mandurah and gold coast , we love it and want to move so badly but with pathway d gone we are now doing aqf level3 and in the process right now.
the thing is with the dollar now $1.95 to the pound and house prices out there hardly gone down much, i feel right now is not a good time and being a businessman there is no way im willing to lose out, for example when i was out there last year i got $2.40 to the pound. I have £100k to take with us and the plan was always to try and get morgage free or very close. This is no longer available in my opinion and a very bad time to go to oz right now if your british as we are not getting value for money.
Part of the fantasy about oz for me was to be morgage free, people say money is not everything but i personally like to thing outside the box and no way do i want to grind out working my arse off for ever, work in my opinion is over rated, i used to be a work a holic and it got me no where............i want to work less and start going to the gym and playing gold, tennis more often, to me thats living and this was the fantasy for me to move to oz as i could of been morgage free and obviously work less because of it, now though oz in reality i feel may just be the same as here, a rat race.
Is there anywhere else in the world that anyone can suggest right now for emmigrating with a wife and 2 young kids?......................florida and america is value for money right now and houses are so cheap in florida right now and obviuosly will not stay this way for long where as the same cannot be said about oz, if anything they are due for a big correction soon just like here........my father in law lives in thailand and he cannot spend £100 a week out there and has a house for like £18k and its absolutely beautiful, but the downside is of course thailand in reality is no good for a british family or though i have seen many uk families there and their children are in international schools................florida is value for money right now but i think many of the same problems we have here.
anyway what does everyone think?, is it time to hold back on oz for a few years? or is there now better options like thailand , florida, france?
Properties in Spain and France have taken a big hit and if you look on the internet you can get some fantastic properties for your bucks....Spain has overbuilt and prices have crashed also.
are you of the same opinion about oz now not value for money?
I don't dislike england its just i want to be able to get away from high morages and crap lifestyle i have in uk, after all life is way too short to be grinding it out every day
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These are the same thoughts I have been having France is not really an option for us because hubby and probably myself will still need to work and although I speak a little French my OH its a no go
Canada was always my preferred option but he doesn't like the cold.
So we chose Australia I have thrown myself completely into the move and had 2 visits Brisbane and perth but the cost of houses and the current housing market here and exchange rate is really concerning us.
Hubby is still very keen to go but I am the worrier.
How easy is it to get into the US their visa system seems much more complicated than the Aus system.
are you of the same opinion about oz now not value for money?
I don't dislike england its just i want to be able to get away from high morages and crap lifestyle i have in uk, after all life is way too short to be grinding it out every day
Oz is not for me and I am a very sporty bloke..I like the UK and hope to get a cheapish flat or whatever as a base in France to explore Europe and beyond.
I agree with your comments, looking at it from a business point of view you are getting less for your house and lees from the exchange rate. it does not look like a good business move. If you have waited this long why rush things now just for the sake of moving. If you have got your heart set on Australia wait a while, things will improve. what goes down always goes back up (well mostly). The company I work for provide to the retail sector and business is pants at the moment, people are just not spending the way they did 12 months ago. My personal opinion is the market (house prices etc) will not pick up for a while yet, 18 months 2yrs. As for the Exchange rate well thats any body's guess.
If you did not have your heart set totally on Aussie but just want to get out of the UK then the worlds your oyster. You can always look at it from a business point of view but its what suits you and your family the most, providing for them and what makes you happy.
this is just my personal opinion, I do not have business degrees, we have a 3 bed semi and I work as a representative out on the road. what I do know is people are not spending and that affects the market place.
Totally understand what you are saying on this one and maybe we have missed the boat here. IF our house prices were dropping here but in Aus their house prices were say like they were a couple of years ago and the exchange rate was better, then YES it would be well worth our while.
But the story is different now and it depends I suppose on what you are prepared to 'have' in the way of materialistic things and house etc..
We are going to give it ago, although I know only to well that it could be a financial disaster! I suppose it's a gamble now and not so clear cut as it could have been say a couple of years ago!
Good luck with what ever you decide to do!!
Regards
p.s. friends of ours are now moving to California !
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I agree, if you had your heart set on Oz then there is no harm in waiting a while to see what happens. We are going over to have a look next March, I am hoping things will be a bit better if and when we decide from the visit to move over there. Remember it still takes time to get everything together and get your visa, who knows what the future holds.
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it seems we are running out of cheap places to retire or live in these days.
It amazes me though that more people do not chose thailand, its so cheap and you can live like a king. The only problems are the language barrier and will we really fit in, its ok for my father in law he has a thai wife..........seriously i envy the way he lives.
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