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Old 05-05-2007, 11:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Wink How can we be called poms ?

Just a bit of useless information but how can we be called a pom. Apart from the abarigines from australia the word pom means "prisoners of mother earth" wich comes from the english criminals been sent over to oz for commiting crime years and years ago so there generations born in oz who are the current australian original citizens they are the poms not us lol The law abiding citizens stayed in england were us lot generate from so them calling us poms is a joke when really there the poms not us ! hehe if only my great great great grandfather would have nicked a loaf of bread or summet back in them days i could have been born in oz instead of here bloody shame thats all i can say lol and who says crime dosent pay it certainley did for there future generations ! And if its true that those 2 boys who killed jamie bulger have been sent over to oz to embrace a new life with a new identity then all i can say is history may be repeating itself then. Wonder if i commit a crime they would send me to oz save all the hassle of a visa application !

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Old 05-05-2007, 11:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Wonder if i commit a crime they would send me to oz save all the hassle of a visa application !
Be carefull the might send you Melbourne.
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The term Pommy for a British person is commonly used by Australian English, New Zealand English, South African English and Afrikaans speakers, and is often shortened to Pom. The origin of this term is not confirmed and there are several persistent false etymologies, most being acronyms.
One theory is that, as the majority of early immigrants to Australia were British, it is rhyming slang for "immigrant" from a contraction of the word "pomegranate", or possibly more directly related to the appearance of the fruit, as it bears a more than passing resemblance to the typical pale complexioned Briton's skin after his or her first few days living under the hot Australian sun.
The Oxford English Dictionary has recently come out strongly in support of the word being a contraction, listing "pom" and "pommy" under its entry for "pomegranate". A supporting quotation from the Bulletin (Sydney) 14 November 1912: "The other day a Pummy Grant (assisted immigrant) was handed a bridle and told to catch a horse."[1]
A commonly-heard alternative theory is that POM is a shortened acronym of Prisoner of His/Her Majesty (POHM) or Prisoner Of Mother England (POME). As many of Australia's first settlers were convicts, sentenced to transportation, this theory holds that upon arrival in the country they would be given a uniform with POHM emblazoned on the back, and that convicts with an extended stay on Australian soil would no longer have to wear the shirt and would often refer to newer entrants into the country as "Pohmmys". Other suggestions hold that POM is a different acronym, such as "Prisoner of Mother England" or "Port of Melbourne". These etymologies are considered by some researchers to be false, as the term "pommy" was coined long before acronyms were used in common parlance. Moreover, there is no record of prisoners in Australia ever wearing such uniforms.
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Old 15-12-2007, 12:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just a bit of useless information but how can we be called a pom. Apart from the abarigines from australia the word pom means "prisoners of mother earth" wich comes from the english criminals been sent over to oz for commiting crime years and years ago so there generations born in oz who are the current australian original citizens they are the poms not us lol The law abiding citizens stayed in england were us lot generate from so them calling us poms is a joke when really there the poms not us ! hehe if only my great great great grandfather would have nicked a loaf of bread or summet back in them days i could have been born in oz instead of here bloody shame thats all i can say lol and who says crime dosent pay it certainley did for there future generations ! And if its true that those 2 boys who killed jamie bulger have been sent over to oz to embrace a new life with a new identity then all i can say is history may be repeating itself then. Wonder if i commit a crime they would send me to oz save all the hassle of a visa application !
Hello Mandy,
Well you are a little bit off the mark here doll, first of all POME is supposed to be prisoner of mother England and also there is a theory that POME was also a reference to the prisoners, bad skin which was likened to a POMEgranite. The term POM these days is just an endearment and a follow on and is basically refered to as anyone who comes from the British isles.
Australians also used to call anyone who came from other parts of europe, WOGS and again it was an endearment, if someone was off sick and asked why, they would commonly say "I had the WOG" (I'm not making this up!)
If you let it bother you, they will torture you with it! be a POM and be proud!
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Old 15-12-2007, 01:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm having "Tom the Pom" T shirts printed up for my reccy trip.

I might as well call myself it before they do
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Old 15-12-2007, 10:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I dont think being called a pom is offensive.I certainly havnt heard it said it an offensive way,i actually laugh and call myself a pom.Its something you will hear all the time but normally in banter,,
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Old 16-12-2007, 02:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Yeah, we too have only heard of used as a term of endearment so far. Like you, we call it ourselves.

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I'm having "Tom the Pom" T shirts printed up for my reccy trip.

I might as well call myself it before they do
Saw a good one out there Tom, it was covered with labels showing all the Aussie Beers and written on the front in the "No Fear" style it had "I fear" and on the back it said "No beer" classic mate.
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Old 16-12-2007, 10:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Australians also used to call anyone who came from other parts of europe, WOGS Alan.
..Er they still use 'wog' here in sunny SA!
Doesn't worry me what they call me as long as it's meant as a joke/nicely! :)
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My wife, who is from South Australia. often calls me Pommy Man, endearingly of course. I often introduce myself to strangers as a Pommy Bastard. It usually gets a laugh and then we all get along fine.

Australians I know always says they have a 'wog' if they have a cold or flu.


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