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Dr Moeller Leaves Town Which Stood By Him

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Old 02-07-2009, 02:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dr Moeller Leaves Town Which Stood By Him

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Having said all that, there was one case in Victoria last year when a medical practitioner on a 457 visa with a Downs Syndrome child was refused PR, appealed to the MRT and was again refused. A subsequent appeal to the Minister was successsful, but the medico worked in a rural area which had not been able to attract a doctor for several years previously and was facing several years again without a GP. There was widespread community outrage as well as Press involvement on a huge scale.

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June 26, 2009 12:00am

GERMAN doctor Bernhard Moeller is leaving Horsham despite the town fighting for him to stay in Australia.
Dr Moeller has quit Wimmera Health Care Group amid claims they have loaded him with too much work and offered a contract he is unwilling to sign.
The specialist physician, who was granted permanent residency so he could continue working in the Wimmera, will finish up on June 30 and is on holidays with his family until his contract expires.
The town last year stood behind Dr Moeller when the immigration department threatened to deport his family because his son Lukas, 13, who has Down syndrome, was considered a drain on the health system.
Horsham Mayor Bernard Gross said he was bitterly disappointed Dr Moeller was leaving Wimmera Health.
"I am disappointed we are losing a physician like him after what the community has done to support him in his bid to get permanent residency," Cr Gross said.
The council had helped Dr Moeller plead his case to the immigration department. "We did all we could," he said.
Dr Moeller has reportedly rejected his Wimmera Health Care contract, believed to be in excess of $300,000, claiming it inappropriately increased his workload.
"I came here to have a proper work-life balance. I will never sign it," he said.
Dr Moeller is the only specialist internal medicine physician serving 20,000 people in Horsham and plays a key role at the Wimmera Base Hospital, which serves 50,000 people in the region.
Horsham residents rallied hard to keep the much-needed doctor in town and celebrated in November when the immigration department overturned its decision and allowed him to stay.
Wimmera Health Care chief executive Chris Scott said they were at a loss to explain the problem.
"We were shocked at his decision and stunned at his approach," Mr Scott said.
"It is the same contract we use for all our doctors. We are still at a loss as to what the issues are."
He said the move would leave the town without a physician but they were recruiting another, possibly from overseas.
Dr Moeller did not return Herald Sun calls on Thursday.
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GERMAN doctor Bernhard Moeller is leaving Horsham despite the town fighting for him to stay in Australia.
Who was the twit in Govt that agreed to grant PR to Dr Moeller without tying him to the area for a set period of time pro rata?

The argument at the time was the need of the community. Nothing has changed. Now the free agent Dr has reneged on his tacit obligations.

I supported his getting of the visa. I don't support his recent change of mind. At $300,000 he can hire another doctor to subcontract and have time off !

Might there be a case of misrepresentation to be heard? Moeller is blaming his main visa supporter for the "draconian" contract. If the new contract offered him is largely similar to the old one, as the hospital suggests, then Dr M needs a talking to about ethics.

I think anyone on this forum would agree to stay in one place if it guaranteed them a visa in difficult circumstances. I am disappointed that the bureaucrats didn't take the opportunity to solve a GP shortage problem in a country area for longer than a few months.
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If the new contract offered him is largely similar to the old one, as the hospital suggests, then Dr M needs a talking to about ethics.

I think anyone on this forum would agree to stay in one place if it guaranteed them a visa in difficult circumstances. I am disappointed that the bureaucrats didn't take the opportunity to solve a GP shortage problem in a country area for longer than a few months.
After the community fighting (and winning) for this bloke, he simply turned his back on them to pursue a "better work-life balance". I don't know many migrants that have achieved that, in such a short time as the poor, hard done to doctor expects to...........in excess of $300,000 eh? I wonder if he'd take a drastic salary cut to obtain that balance that seems so important to him? Perhaps employ a few practice nurses at their basic of 53000 to shoulder his heavy burden for him?

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Great! He doesnt do much for the people who supported him, nor for the cause of people struggling to get into Australia with kids with disabilities. Shame! I hope they rescind his permanent residence but to be quite honest, blind freddie could see that one coming.
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This is the sort of behaviour that makes it doubly difficult for the next person in a similar situation to get visa approval.
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Hi All

There seem to be lots of different rumours about this.

I've been told that part of the angst was that Dr Moeller sought planning permission either for change of use or to build an extension to a private house so as to have a doctor's surgery with a view to private practice. Allegedly one of the neighbours objected to the Planning application. This usually starts a local war whenever it happens in E&W and it could be the same in Horsham in VIC.

Also the price of fame is loss of privacy. That can be hugely stressful. Dr Moeller might not have realised just how stressful once the visa battle was won and he wanted to return to normal obscurity.

Plus I can imagine that there could be a delayed emotional reaction to the months of stress following the initial visa refusal.

Finally Dr Moeller has not told his own side of the new story. I'm astonished that his employers have seen fit to gossip to the press about what one of their employees allegedly said in what should have been a private letter, treated in strict confidence by the employers. Even if the press get the story via a tip off the employer would normally say, "No comment" and leave it firmly at that.

The employers' spokesperson has now put Dr Moeller into a position in which he can't trust them not to gossip to the press about him in the future. I'd be surprised if the employers have not put themselves in breach of contract by gossiping and possibly on the wrong end of litigation for defamation as well.

As the old saying goes, "There are two sides to every divorce. Yours and s**thead's." Soured employment relationships are usually just as bad.

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There seem to be lots of different rumours about this.

I've been told that part of the angst was that Dr Moeller sought planning permission either for change of use or to build an extension to a private house so as to have a doctor's surgery with a view to private practice. Allegedly one of the neighbours objected to the Planning application.
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HORSHAM Rural City Council has approved a permit allowing Horsham physician Dr Bernhard Moeller to open a private medical practice. But Dr Moeller said the decision would not change his mind on abandoning plans to open the private practice and he would continue to seek work outside Horsham.
Council granted Dr Moeller a planning permit for a medical clinic at 12 Smith Street, Horsham, despite receiving one objection from Smith Street resident Blair Schlosser.
Mr Schlosser said the clinic would cause further parking and traffic problems in Smith and Robinson streets.
Council granted Dr Moeller the permit with 24 conditions, one stating that at least four car parking spaces must be provided on site.
Council planning and promotion services general manager Robin Neilson said council had to go through with the permit application despite reading in the Mail-Times on Friday Dr Moeller had abandoned plans to open the clinic.
Mr Neilson said council had not been notified about Dr Moeller's change of plans.
Dr Moeller said despite council approving the permit, he had no plans to open a private clinic in Horsham.
He said his problem was not with the location of the clinic but with Wimmera Health Care Group.
Dr Moeller said he needed a contract with the hospital to open a private practice.
Wimmera Health Care Group has offered him a contract but Dr Moeller said the contract was not acceptable.
``This doesn't change anything, unfortunately,'' Dr Moeller said.
``I don't want this house anymore. I don't want to be locked into a contract with a house I don't need.''
Dr Moeller said Wimmera Health Care Group had accepted his resignation and he would finish on June 30.
Wimmera Health Care Group executive officer Chris Scott said Dr Moeller's lawyers had been in contact with the group to confirm Dr Moeller's resignation.
Mr Scott said Dr Moeller could open a private practice without a hospital contract, as other doctors in Horsham had done.
But he said doctors could not treat patients at the hospital unless they had visiting rights.
He said part of having visiting rights involved having a hospital contract and Dr Moeller did not have a contract with the hospital beyond June 30.
``He had indicated he has resigned from the hospital. His lawyers have confirmed he will resign,'' he said.


Wimmera Health Care chief executive Chris Scott said they were at a loss to explain the problem. "We were shocked at his decision and stunned at his approach," Mr Scott said.
"It is the same contract we use for all our doctors. We are still at a loss as to what the issues are."
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$300,000, a health waiver for his son, his own clinic. What more can he want.

A free return ticket to his country of origin? Done!
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From those reports, Jamie, I suspect there'll be a lot of people out there who will think it should be a one-way ticket to his country of origin.

I imagine the Minister would be ropable.
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I imagine the Minister would be ropable.
Yep, that's what I meant, just making sure it went in the right direction.
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