MP's to vote on restoring the death penalty.

**The Ropey HOFF** · 03-08-2011, 10:00 PM

MP's face being forced into a landmark vote on restoring the death penalty.

Under the new e-petitions any subject getting more than 100,000 signatures, MP's must consider debating it in the commons. Right wing internet bloggers have been collecting signatures for the restoration of Hanging for murderers of children and policemen.

Why they say right wing i don't know, i would have thought bringing back the death penalty, not neccessarily hanging, maybe lethal injection, would be very popular to the massess, who i think are fed up of soft sentences for evil monsters who take innocent peoples lives, callously and brutally and i would extend it to murderers of old people and multiple murders.

Where do i sign?

**ali** · 03-08-2011, 10:15 PM

They won't vote how they're constituants want them to vote Jim. I'd be very surprised if they did bring back the death penalty - there's been too many miscarriages of justice for people to feel secure that the right person would be punished.

**Petals** · 03-08-2011, 10:21 PM

With DNA these days I suppose they are pretty sure but still too hard for me and I believe it would be for the powers that be too.

**The Ropey HOFF** · 03-08-2011, 10:24 PM

I don't think the MP's will vote for it, for two reasons, firstly it would be doing what the people wanted, which is something they hate doing and secondly .......... it would mean having a spine and its a pre-requisite of becoming a MP .......... to have their spines removed.

**guest37336** · 03-08-2011, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by Petals

With DNA these days I suppose they are pretty sure but still too hard for me and I believe it would be for the powers that be too.

Hi Petals.

Good point about DNA, BUT.

Heard a fascinating programme a few years back about the 'proposed' legislation at the time to take a DNA sample from EVERY man, woman and child in the UK, well, from birth anyway, not retrospectively.

I had before this time been wavering about the death penalty, but after hearing what 'could' happen even with DNA 'proof' then I am firmly in the 'against' camp on this one.

Too long to go into detail, but DNA can to a degree haunt even the most innocent at times.

Cheers Tony.

**Guest31881** · 03-08-2011, 11:26 PM

It will not even be considered for a vote, It is no longer in the hands of our government. it is a EEC law. That is why the last two reasons for hanging (Mutiny on high seas and treason during war) was removed from the UK statute about 10 years ago. makes good headlines but will never happen

**Petals** · 04-08-2011, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by Save The Lemming

Hi Petals.

Good point about DNA, BUT.

Heard a fascinating programme a few years back about the 'proposed' legislation at the time to take a DNA sample from EVERY man, woman and child in the UK, well, from birth anyway, not retrospectively.

I had before this time been wavering about the death penalty, but after hearing what 'could' happen even with DNA 'proof' then I am firmly in the 'against' camp on this one.

Too long to go into detail, but DNA can to a degree haunt even the most innocent at times.

Cheers Tony.

I totally agree and when looking at crime as I have got older I now try to put myself in both victim's family and perpetrator or presumed perpetrator's shoes.

I still remember Ruth Ellis being hanged and I was a child in the UK then. Remember the papers etc did not think much about it then being a kid, but now I think that if it had been modern times she would have lived and had some kind of life. Crime of passion.

**Dylan1** · 04-08-2011, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by The Ropey HOFF

I don't think the MP's will vote for it, for two reasons, firstly it would be doing what the people wanted, which is something they hate doing and secondly .......... it would mean having a spine and its a pre-requisite of becoming a MP .......... to have their spines removed.

I dont think people in the U.K want the death penalty to return. That is a step backwards. Many innocent people have been wrongly convicted and I for one do not have enough faith in our Police or our courts. They continue to make one cock up after another and some have proven themselves to be corrupt.

What people do want is a more balanced judicial system. It should be weighted more in favour of the victim and not the criminal.

They want the punishment to fit the crime, they want more prisons and they want punishment to come before rehabilitation not the other way around.

If you voted New Labour in 97 you only have yourself to blame. It is Tony Blair and his odious wife, Cherie Booth QC who are responsible for 'The Human Right's Act'. It was Cherie herself who founded The Matrix Chambers in London from which she continues to practise as a barrister. Matrix was formed in 2000 specialising in ' human rights law. She continues to practice there and has made a very tidy profit from it.

New Labour, the worst goverment in the history of this country. I think even raving lefties hated them.

**The Ropey HOFF** · 04-08-2011, 09:16 AM

I'm not certain about this, but the last time there was a vote, the vote was in favour to bring back the death penalty, i don't know what it would be now. As for Ruth Ellis, she shot someone five times i think, fair enough it might have been a crime of passion, but getting a gun and going and shooting someone five times and killing them to me its cold blooded murder, theres too many excuses these days for one human taking another humans life. She should have got 30 years in jail and if proper sentences were being dished out, people wouldn't really be thinking about the death penalty.