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Old 27-05-2007, 02:12 PM   #71 (permalink)
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I think that you also have to take into account that ok some people just do not take to the country but also if they have had a bad personal experience whilst there, divorce, death etc then it will also taint their view and would explain why they feel the need to go back to the Uk to start afresh.

This is not always the case but I expect it does happen.

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Old 27-05-2007, 02:36 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Hi Ian,

Good post, one which I can empathise with more than the original post.

I would be interested in specifically on your thoughts on some of the reasons we are going.

1. We will ease the financial burden we have here because of considerably lower house prices, coupled with comparable wages and cost of living with here.
2. Standard of education is better (state education!) and health service better.
3. Better career prospects for children.
4. Safer, friendlier society (outside of the large cities).

Item 1 I know to be true, but the other 3 are assumptions I have made on what I have read.

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Old 27-05-2007, 03:00 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Interesting to note that the all the Poms who've had enough of Oz were/are either residing in Sydney or Melbourne.

Is there anyone out the in Qld who's had a gut full of Oz?
Well pointed out, It does seem that way from this, and previous post's. Id also like to know if there there is anybody from Qld who feels the same.............
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Old 27-05-2007, 03:05 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Interesting to note that the all the Poms who've had enough of Oz were/are either residing in Sydney or Melbourne.

Is there anyone out the in Qld who's had a gut full of Oz?
I want to know too!! I'm heading to Brisbane/Sunshine Coast area and specifically going there to have a different lifestyle, near the sea with plenty of outdoor activities etc. etc. it maybe does depend on where people settle/quality of life they experience. I have researched and researched again and again where I want to go and have found a place that will cater to all mine and my families needs, Gags obviously didnt and just had a bad experience and chose the wrong place to live.
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Old 27-05-2007, 04:37 PM   #75 (permalink)
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has anyone ,,,,,,,,,,,

Has anyone noticed how this person has'nt replied to anything for 2days, maybe they are the same person who posted before under a different name as (sorry) some one else has said.....................


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Old 27-05-2007, 05:26 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Has anyone noticed how this person has'nt replied to anything for 2days, maybe they are the same person who posted before under a different name as (sorry) some one else has said.....................


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Old 27-05-2007, 07:38 PM   #77 (permalink)
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Old 27-05-2007, 10:35 PM   #78 (permalink)
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I want to know too!! I'm heading to Brisbane/Sunshine Coast area and specifically going there to have a different lifestyle, near the sea with plenty of outdoor activities etc. etc. it maybe does depend on where people settle/quality of life they experience. I have researched and researched again and again where I want to go and have found a place that will cater to all mine and my families needs, Gags obviously didnt and just had a bad experience and chose the wrong place to live.
Don't forget, Gags went to Oz with his Australian girlfriend, there was no research involved..... and no mention of her coming back to the UK either, come to think of it...

Now the poor fella walks the Dales alone.... I guess he's tending his poor broken heart :-(

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Old 27-05-2007, 10:42 PM   #79 (permalink)
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I think it's important to hear what you you've got to say Ian, we can learn something from your experience(s) in Aus. I think the difference between your post and that of Gags, (although I did agree with some of what he said), is that you spoke of your experience as unique to you. gags post came across as "I've done it, it was crap so don't think you should go either" - Perhaps it shows the maturity of each of the authors?

Good luck with your move back to the UK (albeit a temporary one initially), I'll be really interested to know where you settle eventually - keep us posted

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Old 28-05-2007, 12:41 AM   #80 (permalink)
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1.Being realistic, you will do essentially the same things as you do here: commute to work, work, commute to home, eat, watch TV, go out, sleep, repeat, repeat, weekend.
2. Having held several jobs in Oz, I worked with a vast number of different of local people, primarily in a similar age bracket (20-30) and of a similar background (relatively middle-class and mostly degree-educated). This pattern generally holds true.
3.Unless you live in London you are likely to spend longer on your commute in Australian cities. Many of my friends thought nothing of travelling an hour each way to work, in fact several even had longer journeys combining driving to their local train station, catching a train into the city and then tram to their office. Very concentrated CBDs and virtually unchecked suburban sprawl means that people often live huge distances from their place work.
4.Having been back in the UK for about 12 months, I have had a much outdoors lifestyle than in Oz. It may be warmer there, but you seem to spend your life in an air-conditioned cocoon.
5.Don’t get me started on Australian TV (non-stop American reality show imports littered with adverts). The music scene is awful. The food is strictly Greek/Italian or Viet/Thai. Nobody has heard of Tapas. Curries are almost impossible to find. And French food might as well not exist.
6.A lot of people cite their children as the prime reason for emigrating which I find quite strange. As if a bigger garden and a bit more sunshine is all kids need!
Did i think my friends and colleagues were any happier or more rounded individuals as a result of growing up in Australia? Certainly not. For most of the people I know in Australia, many have rarely been outside the state of Victoria.
7. geographic isolation and inward-focused media leaves them relatively uncultured, often quite narrow-minded and occassionally extremely bigotted when compared to people of similar socio-economic backgrounds in the UK.
8.There is massive problems of drug abuse (especially Crystal Meth and Heroin) and gambling is seen as socially acceptable, normal even. People who think that anti-social behaviour is purely a British problem are absolutely deluding themselves. My ‘neighbours’ in Melbourne used to use our stairwell as a urinal. Fights in pubs and on the street are commonplace, often much more violent than in the UK.
9.I used to go on holiday at least once a year either with my family or with school. The furthest kids go in Oz is on school camp to Maloooonlongatta or somewhere else completely irrelevant.
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I wasn't going to add my bit, but I just can't help myself! Bet you all stop reading about.....NOW!

1.Of course! Surely no-one expects much different. It is just life after all. It's what you choose to do with the 'go out' bit of your time that counts.
2. Why did you change your job so often? Several jobs in three years..?
3. Whilst I don't doubt your experience, I would ask you not to assume all states are the same. SA is immense, the suburbs round Adelaide sprawling, and although I know lots of people who to travel up to an hour, I know lots more that don't. Anyway, although I would imagine most people coming over would rather not travel an hour +, I don't think this would be enough to put people off. After all work is one of the realities of life.
4. I'd guess that depends on the person, the weather and their choice.
5.Who cares about tv? Music..well seems ok to me, although some bands do not come to SA. Lots of local stuff though, and they like rock so I'm ok!
6. Now that is naive! Of you...as a parent I had to weigh up the loss of good museums, buildings etc against the possible gains. We feel that the gains have outweighed the losses.
7.It is true that the Australians seem pretty insular (No, I read The Times and miss it very much; The Age is no substitute.) and inward-focused. I'm getting used to it. Can't think of anything too positive on that one, but I do enjoy the feeling that the newspaper relates directly to our life in Adelaide.
8. Yes, I'm sure there is a drug problem, alcohol abuse, pokie-addiction, anti-social behaviour and fighting. I don't imagine it's the worse in the world and I don't believe (with the possible exception of gambling) that it's worse than the UK.
9. Nah, the trips aren't irrelevant, you just aren't seeing the potential. Families here (Adelaide) tend to go fishing, walking, camping etc more than families I knew in Tonbridge. There seem to be more weekends away and fewer formal holidays - probably 'cos it's cheaper!

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