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Old 02-07-2008, 03:30 PM   #311 (permalink)
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hi gags,
while everyone will have their own thoughts on oz you are coming across as someone who had a bad experience while there..

i feel you are being unfair to the country as this is only your view an maybe when you have been livin back in the uk for A few years you will think differently.

people come on to this site to gain info about the country not to listen to some one who has sour grapes an slag oz off
we are not all livin in cloud cuckoo land but we should not be slated for wantin a better life outside the uk an if oz is the dump you portray it to be why were there 40,000
visa applications last year?????

you can share your experience but not to the degree that you have as we just dont want to hear about it

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Old 02-07-2008, 03:41 PM   #312 (permalink)
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We're waiting for the next £10 Pomes deal coz that's the only way we're going to get over there, FACT!

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Old 02-07-2008, 03:44 PM   #313 (permalink)
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Unfortunately (what you don't hear) is that of these 40,000 visas issued, 20,000 of these end up going back home within the first 3 years. I guess the remaining 20,000 can't afford to get home so are stuck over here!
I think having a go at gags is a bit dumb. Partly because he is right, but also because he is trying to help. People "wanting to make a better life for themselves" should take his words onboard and think very carefully before moving here - they may just make a worse life for themselves.
The most concerning line in your post was "we don't want to hear about your gripes" - that is a line which has massive potential to come back and bite you in the bum!!
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:45 PM   #314 (permalink)
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hi gags,
while everyone will have their own thoughts on oz you are coming across as someone who had a bad experience while there..

i feel you are being unfair to the country as this is only your view an maybe when you have been livin back in the uk for A few years you will think differently.

people come on to this site to gain info about the country not to listen to some one who has sour grapes an slag oz off
we are not all livin in cloud cuckoo land but we should not be slated for wantin a better life outside the uk an if oz is the dump you portray it to be why were there 40,000
visa applications last year?????

you can share your experience but not to the degree that you have as we just dont want to hear about it

caza
There was an article in the West australian (WA newspaper) about the state industry and commerce want a relaxation on the visa process(language) because they want to invite more chinese and indians

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Old 02-07-2008, 03:52 PM   #315 (permalink)
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Unfortunately (what you don't hear) is that of these 40,000 visas issued, 20,000 of these end up going back home within the first 3 years. I guess the remaining 20,000 can't afford to get home so are stuck over here!
I think having a go at gags is a bit dumb. Partly because he is right, but also because he is trying to help. People "wanting to make a better life for themselves" should take his words onboard and think very carefully before moving here - they may just make a worse life for themselves.
The most concerning line in your post was "we don't want to hear about your gripes" - that is a line which has massive potential to come back and bite you in the bum!!

And a percentage of those 20,000 just love life in Oz and will never return home.
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:54 PM   #316 (permalink)
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i am not dumb, an as for havin a go i am only voicing my opinion an if i thought for one minute oz was not for me i would not be on this site .... it seems that people are usin it for a slanging match when things piss them off
dont go to oz if it not for you but please do not try an put others off an i also dont believe that if you wanted to come back ,that you would get the plane ticket from somewhere it not that expensive for a one way ticket
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:45 PM   #317 (permalink)
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I'm not quite sure why this thread continues to run, as it's origin is over 12 months old. Gags was, and is, perfectly within the rights of this forum to voice his opinions, (even though I disagree with most of them ), but one man's experience is highly unlikely to be the same as any other person's view.
You will all make your decisions to go to Australia, or indeed return from Australia, based on what is happening in your life not someone elses. To point out what you have found to be negatives can be helpful to some, but it is unlikely that there are many on here that consider a move to Australia is a positive experience all the way. Of course there are pitfalls and a good many things that you won't like about the country, but in making your decision to go, it will be because for you in any case, the positives as you see them, outweigh the negatives.
The streets are not paved with gold, the sun doesn't always shine, but for most of the people on this forum, the need for them to move on and try a new stage in their life is something they have thought long and hard about.
I would suggest that anyone wishing to highlight anything that they consider is a negative about life in Australia, does it in a more constructive manner and not merely assume that everyone is approaching the move with their "head in the clouds", or looking through " rose tinted glasses".
Good luck to everyone in pursuit of their happiness.

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i am not dumb, an as for havin a go i am only voicing my opinion an if i thought for one minute oz was not for me i would not be on this site .... it seems that people are usin it for a slanging match when things piss them off
dont go to oz if it not for you but please do not try an put others off an i also dont believe that if you wanted to come back ,that you would get the plane ticket from somewhere it not that expensive for a one way ticket
Listen we are the people who were on this site looking for advice...we have been in your shoes...and before we came over not alot of people had landed so we didnt hear these views....GOD I wish we had. We have a right to come on here and say how we find OZ good or Bad.... And its not just about a plane ticket is it??? People have shipped there whole life here and as you know how long that can take you will appreciate that it takes the same to ship back......do you really think people emigrated to hate this place..... It called POMSIN OZ.....for people who are emigrating...AND LIVING HERE !!
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Old 02-07-2008, 11:43 PM   #319 (permalink)
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hi gags,
while everyone will have their own thoughts on oz you are coming across as someone who had a bad experience while there..

i feel you are being unfair to the country as this is only your view an maybe when you have been livin back in the uk for A few years you will think differently.

people come on to this site to gain info about the country not to listen to some one who has sour grapes an slag oz off
we are not all livin in cloud cuckoo land but we should not be slated for wantin a better life outside the uk an if oz is the dump you portray it to be why were there 40,000
visa applications last year?????

you can share your experience but not to the degree that you have as we just dont want to hear about it

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One hesitates to say that if you dont want to hear about it, dont read it.

I have no idea why this thread got resurrected a little while ago but it did and it seems to have riled people no end. The bloke gave what, IMHO was actually quite a reasonable view of his experience and his experience of being back in UK. I must also say that there is a great deal of truth in what he said from my experience too and I have absolutely no doubt that my son, who now lives in UK would agree with him too (I showed him the post and he said it was spot on but he didnt write it!). To knock the bloke for having a contrary view is quite unfair. To knock those of us who happen to have actually lived here and who agree with him is similarly unfair.

I have absolutely no difficulty with people wanting a bit of adventure in their lives, heck, we all did it - I even lived in Papua New Guinea, now that WAS an adventure. But when people tell you that your life experiences are wrong just because they saw a tv program which said so (and you wouldnt believe the power of the telly in persuading people to chuck in perfectly good lives in UK to come and live here with possibly less good outcomes) then a rebuttal is quite justifiable. One wonders how many of the 40,000 visa applicants were addicted to Wanted Down Under!

Of course there are some outrageous statements on here by people who just love stirring and if you cant see the tongue in cheek and black humour associated with them then you are going to be in for a hard time as a settler here

I sometimes think that if people put as much time, energy and enthusiasm into their lives in UK as they do in trying to get to Australia they would have such a bloody good time there that they would never want to leave.
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I don't think Gags ever posted again - or replied to his own thread. Lets hope that means he's happy wherever he is living .... at the end of the day that's what really matters

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