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Gollywobbler · 13-05-2008, 10:02 PM

This is another crucial piece of the jig-saw. The permanent CPV 143 or CAPV 864 cannot be granted until an acceptable Assurance of Support has been put into place first. Up to three individuals can club together to provide an AoS, but an individual can only Assure a maximum of 2 adults at any one time, plus the Assurer is means-tested by Centrelink.

Since you are a wife & mum, the usual scenario would be that you and your OH together would provide a joint AoS for your Parents, because you are their child but he is probably the main breadwinner in your own household.

You have to be very careful about the fact that if Hubby gets involved with Assuring your Parents then he would be unable to Assure his own Parents for any sort of Parent visa until the 10 year AoS period for your Parents’ visa has come to an end.

This being so, are there any plans for Hubby’s Parents to migrate? Even if they cannot migrate now, what would happen if one of Hubby’s siblings should die prematurely? Would that alter what his Parents might want to do?

Also, you are talking about the CAP 864 visa, which is the immediately-permanent version of the onshore CAP visa. Fine, but an AoS would be needed for that and Centrelink will require proof of the Assurers’ incomes for two consecutive years, and the income for the first of the relevant years must be proven by production of a Tax Assessment Notice for each person involved in giving the AoS. Please see the following links:

http://www.gomatilda.com/news/article.cfm?articleid=436

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/34aos.htm

http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/factors/assurance_support.htm

Again, this is affected by what effect the new quota will have on processing times, and that in turn will affect whether or not you opt for the temporary CPV or CAPV to start with. If you propose to try an early application plus the processing time is likely to be quick, you may be forced to choose the temporary CP 173 visa or the temporary Contributory Aged Parent 884 visa to start with.

So again I would say let us leave this in abeyance for a day or two whilst we clarify the other questions. However, please DO make sure that you and OH are earning enough between you so that there will be no possible headaches with the AoS income thresholds when the time comes. They do increase the thresholds without notice, and the new, higher thresholds then apply with immediate effect, so “just about enough” today is NOT enough to be safe at some time in the future. That said, the thresholds were reduced when the scheme was re-jigged at the beginning of January 2008, hopefully making things easier for families on comparatively low incomes.

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Gollywobbler Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 5,930 Thanks: 40 Thanked 154 Times in 114 Posts My Mood:	Assurance of Suport This is another crucial piece of the jig-saw. The permanent CPV 143 or CAPV 864 cannot be granted until an acceptable Assurance of Support has been put into place first. Up to three individuals can club together to provide an AoS, but an individual can only Assure a maximum of 2 adults at any one time, plus the Assurer is means-tested by Centrelink. Since you are a wife & mum, the usual scenario would be that you and your OH together would provide a joint AoS for your Parents, because you are their child but he is probably the main breadwinner in your own household. You have to be very careful about the fact that if Hubby gets involved with Assuring your Parents then he would be unable to Assure his own Parents for any sort of Parent visa until the 10 year AoS period for your Parents’ visa has come to an end. This being so, are there any plans for Hubby’s Parents to migrate? Even if they cannot migrate now, what would happen if one of Hubby’s siblings should die prematurely? Would that alter what his Parents might want to do? Also, you are talking about the CAP 864 visa, which is the immediately-permanent version of the onshore CAP visa. Fine, but an AoS would be needed for that and Centrelink will require proof of the Assurers’ incomes for two consecutive years, and the income for the first of the relevant years must be proven by production of a Tax Assessment Notice for each person involved in giving the AoS. Please see the following links: http://www.gomatilda.com/news/article.cfm?articleid=436 http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/34aos.htm http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/factors/assurance_support.htm Again, this is affected by what effect the new quota will have on processing times, and that in turn will affect whether or not you opt for the temporary CPV or CAPV to start with. If you propose to try an early application plus the processing time is likely to be quick, you may be forced to choose the temporary CP 173 visa or the temporary Contributory Aged Parent 884 visa to start with. So again I would say let us leave this in abeyance for a day or two whilst we clarify the other questions. However, please DO make sure that you and OH are earning enough between you so that there will be no possible headaches with the AoS income thresholds when the time comes. They do increase the thresholds without notice, and the new, higher thresholds then apply with immediate effect, so “just about enough” today is NOT enough to be safe at some time in the future. That said, the thresholds were reduced when the scheme was re-jigged at the beginning of January 2008, hopefully making things easier for families on comparatively low incomes.